[sword-devel] French Bible Segond 1910 with Strong's number

[David Haslam]

The activity in this thread prompted me to ask the following question:

Is there a digital edition of a French translation of [the English in] Strong's Concordance?

Best regards,

David

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On Saturday, November 2nd, 2024 at 10:02 AM, Fr Cyrille <fr.cyrille at tiberiade.be> wrote:

> Dear Yvand,
> This is all very good news. Personally I would keep things simple with as few modules from the same Bible as possible. Before I do, I'd like to share with you that I was recently asked to help work on the Segond Bible on wikisource. (https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_Segond_1910)
> I think it's a very good place to store the original text, especially as we benefit from the support of the whole wikisource community, and what's more we have a tool that makes it easy to download bibles from wikisource and convert them to usfm or osis. Work carried out by Arnaud Vié, whom which I've copied. I don't know how useful it will be for you, but I find it very easy to correct typos on wikisource. So my first suggestion would be to see if you'd agree to us making it the reference in terms of source text. There's also the facsimile.
>
> Then for the module, my advice is to leave only one module on either ebible or crosswire. This avoids unnecessary maintenance. It's true that working with Michael, who is responsible for ebible, is quite convenient. He's responsive and updates his bibles automatically. I think he could give you access to his server via bibledit so that you could easily get the updates automatically! It's a real convenience for me as I work on the Crampon.
>
> Finally, would it be possible to have your tools to put strong on the Crampon? I've already done it, automating the work with Michael's tools. But it's true that there are errors that need to be corrected, and maybe yours would be more accurate.
>
> Br Cyrille
>
> Le 02/11/2024 à 08:49, yvand a écrit :
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am a member of a small group of French people working on French Bible translations and Strong's numbers. Since years, we worked on affecting Strong's numbers (OT+NT) and French lemmas in about 10 French Bible versions. Originally a person worked in Excel years ago, we now migrated to XML and use a website with backend to update affectations. Our work is "multi translation". For public domain versions, we freely give the text with Strong's numbers. We only request a mention about our association with a link to our website (https://concordance.bible/). I already submitted French Darby version with Strong's numbers in Crosswire (see FreJND sword module).
>>
>> For Segond 1910, the text is in public domain. I used mod2imp to get the text from the FreSegond (Crosswire) module months ago. The only changes we made are about versification. Indeed all our texts use the same versification (based on WLC, for OT = German in sword), so the text matches the original (hebrew WLC or greek MT/WH) one and we can easily compare translations.
>>
>> In the past, the FreLSG module had Strong's numbers. If I am correct (see discussion "Strong numbers for Louis Segond" in 2013/07), we do not have the authorization (but still available in STEP) so this module has been removed or replaced by FreSegond module (renamed ?).
>>
>> The fraLSG1910eb (F10) module is a more recent one, available in e-bible repo with headings, WoC and Strong's numbers. It seems to be a work in progress for Strong's numbers. They are not available for all books. I compare Strong's numbers affectations for the first verses of Genesis 1 (see attached screenshot) but there are errors in this module. On the left this module, on the right our data (https://concordance.bible/Sg1910/Gen/1/).
>>
>> So I contact all of you (especially actual maintainers of Segond 1910 modules and French users) what would be the best way of giving our Strong's numbers for Segond 1910 in a sword module. I don't know who is concerned or interested that's why I send to the mailing list.
>>
>> As there is already many existing Segond 1910 sword module, it guess it would not be a good idea of creating a new one. On one side, as our text is based from FreSegond module, it might be a good idea of updating this module with Strong's numbers (the only difference is versification). On the other hand, the fraLSG1910eb module offers Strong's numbers but our data seems more accurate and complete, so it could be interesting of updating this module. In any case, it would be important to submit updates regularly for Strong's numbers.
>>
>> Regards in Christ
>> yvand
>>
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