[sword-devel] French Bible Segond 1910 with Strong's number

[Fr Cyrille]

Dear Yvand,
This is all very good news. Personally I would keep things simple with 
as few modules from the same Bible as possible. Before I do, I'd like to 
share with you that I was recently asked to help work on the Segond 
Bible on wikisource. (https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Bible_Segond_1910)
I think it's a very good place to store the original text, especially as 
we benefit from the support of the whole wikisource community, and 
what's more we have a tool that makes it easy to download bibles from 
wikisource and convert them to usfm or osis. Work carried out by Arnaud 
Vié, whom which I've copied. I don't know how useful it will be for you, 
but I find it very easy to correct typos on wikisource. So my first 
suggestion would be to see if you'd agree to us making it the reference 
in terms of source text. There's also the facsimile.

Then for the module, my advice is to leave only one module on either 
ebible or crosswire. This avoids unnecessary maintenance.  It's true 
that working with Michael, who is responsible for ebible, is quite 
convenient. He's responsive and updates his bibles automatically. I 
think he could give you access to his server via bibledit so that you 
could easily get the updates automatically! It's a real convenience for 
me as I work on the Crampon.

Finally, would it be possible to have your tools to put strong on the 
Crampon? I've already done it, automating the work with Michael's tools. 
But it's true that there are errors that need to be corrected, and maybe 
yours would be more accurate.

Br Cyrille

Le 02/11/2024 à 08:49, yvand a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> I am a member of a small group of French people working on French 
> Bible translations and Strong's numbers. Since years, we worked on 
> affecting Strong's numbers (OT+NT) and French lemmas in about 10 
> French Bible versions. Originally a person worked in Excel years ago, 
> we now migrated to XML and use a website with backend to update 
> affectations. Our work is "multi translation". For public domain 
> versions, we freely give the text with Strong's numbers. We only 
> request a mention about our association with a link to our website 
> (https://concordance.bible/). I already submitted French Darby version 
> with Strong's numbers in Crosswire (see FreJND sword module).
>
> For *Segond 1910*, the text is in public domain. I used mod2imp to get 
> the text from the FreSegond (Crosswire) module months ago. The only 
> changes we made are about versification. Indeed all our texts use the 
> same versification (based on WLC, for OT = German in sword), so the 
> text matches the original (hebrew WLC or greek MT/WH) one and we can 
> easily compare translations.
>
> In the past, the *FreLSG* module had Strong's numbers. If I am correct 
> (see discussion "Strong numbers for Louis Segond" in 2013/07), we do 
> not have the authorization (but still available in STEP) so this 
> module has been removed or replaced by *FreSegond* module (renamed ?).
>
> The *fraLSG1910eb* (*F10*) module is a more recent one, available in 
> e-bible repo with headings, WoC and Strong's numbers. It seems to be a 
> work in progress for Strong's numbers. They are not available for all 
> books. I compare Strong's numbers affectations for the first verses of 
> Genesis 1 (see attached screenshot) but there are errors in this 
> module. On the left this module, on the right our data 
> (https://concordance.bible/Sg1910/Gen/1/).
>
> *So I contact all of you (especially actual maintainers of Segond 1910 
> modules and French users) what would be the best way of giving our 
> Strong's numbers for Segond 1910 in a sword module.* I don't know who 
> is concerned or interested that's why I send to the mailing list.
>
> As there is already many existing Segond 1910 sword module, it guess 
> it would not be a good idea of creating a new one. On one side, as our 
> text is based from FreSegond module, it might be a good idea of 
> updating this module with Strong's numbers (the only difference is 
> versification). On the other hand, the fraLSG1910eb module offers 
> Strong's numbers but our data seems more accurate and complete, so it 
> could be interesting of updating this module. In any case, it would be 
> important to submit updates regularly for Strong's numbers.
>
> Regards in Christ
> yvand
>
>
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