[sword-devel] French Bible Segond 1910 with Strong's number

domcox dominique at corbex.org
Tue Nov 5 13:38:14 EST 2024


yvand <yvand.sword at gmail.com> writes:

>
> For Segond 1910, the text is in public domain. I used mod2imp to 
> get the text from the FreSegond (Crosswire) module months
> ago. The only changes we made are about versification. Indeed 
> all our texts use the same versification (based on WLC, for OT =
> German in sword), so the text matches the original (hebrew WLC 
> or greek MT/WH) one and we can easily compare
> translations.

As lot of people still read the printed French Segond 1910 or 
derivatives, I think it's very important to match the printed
versification. Regular readers generally view Bible software with 
not matching versifications as second-rate software.
We have a matching Bible Segond versification, let's keep it that 
way.


> In the past, the FreLSG module had Strong's numbers. If I am 
> correct (see discussion "Strong numbers for Louis Segond" in
> 2013/07), we do not have the authorization (but still available 
> in STEP) so this module has been removed or replaced by
> FreSegond module (renamed ?).

In the past, the FreLSG had Strong's numbers. It was upgraded 
later to a new version that was horrible, filled with errors
and even containing deuteros that never existed in the Segond 
Bible.

This is why I made the FreSegond module, it was not an easy 
task. The Segond Bible is everywhere on the Web, but it looks like
all sites use the same source, and it's not accurate.


> The fraLSG1910eb (F10) module is a more recent one, available in 
> e-bible repo with headings, WoC and Strong's numbers. It
> seems to be a work in progress for Strong's numbers. They are 
> not available for all books. I compare Strong's numbers
> affectations for the first verses of Genesis 1 (see attached 
> screenshot) but there are errors in this module. On the left 
> this
> module, on the right our data 
> (https://concordance.bible/Sg1910/Gen/1/).

If I remember well, Michael have access to the DBL, so his module 
is certainly based on the official Public Domain version,
edited by the Alliance Biblique Française 
(https://lire.la-bible.net/bible/LSG/GEN.1)


> So I contact all of you (especially actual maintainers of Segond 
> 1910 modules and French users) what would be the
> best way of giving our Strong's numbers for Segond 1910 in a 
> sword module. I don't know who is concerned or interested
> that's why I send to the mailing list.
>
> As there is already many existing Segond 1910 sword module, it 
> guess it would not be a good idea of creating a new one. On
> one side, as our text is based from FreSegond module, it might 
> be a good idea of updating this module with Strong's numbers
> (the only difference is versification). On the other hand, the 
> fraLSG1910eb module offers Strong's numbers but our data seems
> more accurate and complete, so it could be interesting of 
> updating this module. In any case, it would be important to 
> submit
> updates regularly for Strong's numbers.

I think the best option for this module should be:

1. Have access to the DBL version
2. Update the current CrossWire module from that source with 
footnotes, comments and cross-references, keeping the original 
versification
3. Add Strong's numbers



-- 
Dom


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