[sword-devel] Qetiv/Kere in output ?

[Peter von Kaehne]

Hi, 

To the best of my knowledge this has not been implemented in the engine but should be easy to get done. 

If you describe to me how this should ideally look would be very helpful. I do remember staring at this pack of implementation a few times and then moving on as I had other things to do and did not know what to do in the first place. 

To give you some background: the engine translates the OSIS xml into html/xhtml and in latter years we have tried to make this as flexible as possible by using largely a CSS directed graphical representation instead of hard coding anything into the resultant html. 

So, the questions I need answering are 

1) should this always be visible in both versions ? Or should it get toggled as a text option like so many other options?

2) inline or stacked ? Stacked means like strongs etc . 

I guess the closest equivalent to it in existing code is the Ruby annotation we have in Japanese. That gives a reading in Japanese syllabary writing to otherwise possibly difficult to pronounce Chinese script signs. Look at our Japanese Bibles to see what I mean. 

Peter

Sent from my phone. Please forgive misspellings and weird “corrections”

> On 6 May 2022, at 07:24, pierre amadio <amadio.pierre at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi there !
> 
> I have a problem dealing with Qere and ketiv
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qere_and_Ketiv) with xml/html output.
> 
> In the Hebrew bible, there are some words that are pronounced,
> according to the tradition, in a different way than what is actually
> written.
> 
> There is the ketiv what is written, and the qere, what is read out lout.
> 
> There is such a thing in Ruth 1.8
> 
> https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ruth/1-8.htm
> 
> Ketiv: יעשה
> Qere: (יַעַשׂ)
> 
> The Osis file shows this:
> <w lemma="strong:H06213" morph="oshm:HVqi3ms"
> type="x-ketiv">יעשה</w><note
> type="variant"><catchWord>יעשה</catchWord><rdg type="x-qere"><w
> lemma="strong:H06213" morph="oshm:HVqj3ms">יַ֣עַשׂ</w></rdg></note>
> 
> The plain output of diatheke show both entry in bracket as a footnote:
> 
> diatheke -b OSHB -o cvfa -f plain -k Ruth 1.8
> Ruth 1:8: וַתֹּ֤אמֶר נָעֳמִי֙ לִשְׁתֵּ֣י כַלֹּתֶ֔יהָ לֵ֣כְנָה
> שֹּׁ֔בְנָה אִשָּׁ֖ה לְבֵ֣ית אִמָּ֑הּ יעשה [יעשהיַ֣עַשׂ]  יְהוָ֤ה
> עִמָּכֶם֙ חֶ֔סֶד כַּאֲשֶׁ֧ר עֲשִׂיתֶ֛ם עִם־הַמֵּתִ֖ים וְעִמָּדִֽי׃
> (OSHB)
> 
> 
> I do not see the same information in the html or xhtml or osis output:
> $ diatheke -b OSHB -o cvfa -f FMT_HTML -k Ruth 1.8
> 
> <w  savlm="strong:H06213" type="x-ketiv">יעשה</w><note
> swordFootnote="1" type="variant"></note>
> 
> Is there a way to get a xml/html output that let me get access to both
> qere and ketiv form ?
> 
> If not, is that a Sword bug that should be open, or could it be dealt
> with in the way the Osis file is formatted in the first place ?
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