[sword-devel] Numbers 25:19 and German versification ?

David Troidl DavidTroidl at aol.com
Sat Jan 23 09:08:59 EST 2021


Check the Hebrew text. The MT versification has Num 25:19. Then the 
English v11n just consolidated that into the beginning of Num 26:1.

On 1/23/2021 7:20 AM, Bastian Germann wrote:
> Am 23.01.21 um 12:53 schrieb David Haslam:
>> Does anyone know why the German V11N has 19 verses rather than 18 in 
>> Numbers 25 ?
>
> I guess that it is a bad decision by Luther :-).
>
>> Module GerNeUe has Versification=German but has only 18 verses in 
>> this chapter.
>> It's not alone in not having a verse 19.
>>
>> cf. The KJV has only 18 verses in the same chapter.
>>
>> Does any printed Luther translation have a verse 19 ?
>
> I just checked in a Luther 1984. It has a verse 19. Fun fact: The 
> typesetter set verse 19 at the beginning of Numbers 26.
>
>> The HunUj module (also with v11n=German) here reads:
>>
>> Numbers 25:19: A csapás után a következők történtek:
>> Numbers 26:1: Az Úr ezt mondta Mózesnek és Eleázár papnak, Áron fiának:
>>
>> which Google translates as:
>>
>> Numbers 25:19: After the blow, the following happened:
>> Numbers 26:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Eleazar the son 
>> of Aaron the priest,
>>
>> This might indicate that v19 was brought forward from the first part 
>> of 26:1 in other translations.
>
> Some German translations that do not follow the Luther versification 
> strictly, do that as well. E.g. Schlachter and Menge.
>
>> Yet it seems rather odd that any translation interpolates "the 
>> following happened" merely to comport with the strange placement of 
>> "After the blow (plague?)" which is without even a verb.
>>
>> e.g. GerNeUe here reads:
>>
>> Numbers 26:1: Nach der Plage sagte Jahwe zu Mose und dem Priester 
>> Eleasar Ben-Aaron:
>>
>> which translates as:
>>
>> Numbers 26:1: After the plague, the Lord said to Moses and Eleazar 
>> Ben-Aaron the priest:
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