[sword-devel] transChange within a rdg element
DM Smith
dmsmith at crosswire.org
Mon Feb 8 11:36:44 MST 2016
Troy,
Is it important to prefix with an asterisk or can some other markup be used?
There is nothing in the conf or on the page that would indicate what the * would mean. As it is, it looks like a dangling footnote marker.
In Him,
DM
> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
> Here is an example of the transChange in the NASB. While looking this
> up, I noticed the previous verse has formatting differences with old and
> new version of the proposed NASB. I am not sure where we are not, but
> if we want to check where we are now, I would suggest we publish the
> absolute latest version on swordweb and build a list of parallel links
> to verses which demonstrate challenging markup, like the link below:
>
> http://crosswire.org/study/parallelstudy.jsp?add=NASB&add=NASBnew&key=Mat.2.18#cv
>
>
> I don't know which converted was used over the years to produce "NASB"
> and "NASBnew" but new is obviously work than the previous version in
> verse 18. Verse 19 shows the transChange '*'.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
> On 02/08/2016 10:40 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Hey guys. The tenseChange to add a '*' was part of the NASB source
>> updates. The NASB renders tenseChange with a '*' next to the verb.
>> Typically in the Gospels, when the author is storytelling, they
>> frequently switch to the present tense (we do this in English too when
>> tell stories, e.g., "so I go into the store, and the clerk gives me a
>> winning lottery ticket and asks me to cash it and he only asks me for
>> 40% of the gross winnings. It turns out, after taxes, that's ALL the
>> winnings!"). The NASB and most all other English translations, change
>> the verbs to past tense. The NASB at least marks the verbs with an '*'
>> to show they changed the tense to read more formally.
>>
>> I realize we prefer not to use an '*' directly in the filter, but
>> instead CSS to let the frontends decide how they wish to render these,
>> but removing the '*' without providing proper CSS to insert an '*' or
>> some other default rendering is a backwards step, and one specifically
>> affecting the release of the NASB.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>> On 02/05/2016 10:32 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>>> is this in svn head? Or simply a release?
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 05. Februar 2016 um 17:10 Uhr
>>> *Von:* "DM Smith" <dmsmith at crosswire.org>
>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [sword-devel] transChange within a rdg element
>>> At this point the code (osisxhtml) says:
>>> if ((type == "added") || (type == "supplied"))
>>> outText("<span class=\"transChangeSupplied\">", buf, u);
>>> else if (type == "tenseChange")
>>> buf += "*";
>>>
>>> Note: supplied is not a valid value for transChange and probably
>>> represents an earlier OSIS text.
>>>
>>> It really bother’s me that tenseChange is given with mark down. And that
>>> none of the other transChange type attributes are passed as class values.
>>>
>>> Here is how it handles catchWord and rdg.
>>> // <catchWord> & <rdg> tags (italicize)
>>> else if (!strcmp(tag.getName(), "rdg") || !strcmp(tag.getName(),
>>> "catchWord")) {
>>> if ((!tag.isEndTag()) && (!tag.isEmpty())) {
>>> outText("<i>", buf, u);
>>> }
>>> else if (tag.isEndTag()) {
>>> outText("</i>", buf, u);
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> This is not good. Probably should have been <span class=“…”> And catch
>>> word should be styled as bold.
>>>
>>> DM
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> At this point, I believe that SWORD hands off styling like that to the
>>> app to do with CSS (for those apps using HTML output). Does it not? I
>>> don't thin it's using <i> or <em>, although I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> --Greg
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:26 AM, David Haslam
>>> <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Something that DM and I have mooted.
>>>
>>> When transChange is used within a rdg element (i.e. inside a
>>> note), and
>>> since SWORD renders text within a rdg as italics, then the text
>>> within the
>>> transChange ought ideally to be rendered as normal type in order
>>> to maintain
>>> the contrast with the other text that's in italics.
>>>
>>> If not already done, please could this be patched in the SWORD
>>> source code.
>>>
>>> DM will implement it in JSword.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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