[sword-devel] transChange within a rdg element

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Here is an example of the transChange in the NASB.  While looking this
up, I noticed the previous verse has formatting differences with old and
new version of the proposed NASB.  I am not sure where we are not, but
if we want to check where we are now, I would suggest we publish the
absolute latest version on swordweb and build a list of parallel links
to verses which demonstrate challenging markup, like the link below:

http://crosswire.org/study/parallelstudy.jsp?add=NASB&add=NASBnew&key=Mat.2.18#cv


I don't know which converted was used over the years to produce "NASB"
and "NASBnew" but new is obviously work than the previous version in
verse 18.  Verse 19 shows the transChange '*'.

Troy



On 02/08/2016 10:40 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Hey guys.  The tenseChange to add a '*' was part of the NASB source
> updates.  The NASB renders tenseChange with a '*' next to the verb.
> Typically in the Gospels, when the author is storytelling, they
> frequently switch to the present tense (we do this in English too when
> tell stories, e.g., "so I go into the store, and the clerk gives me a
> winning lottery ticket and asks me to cash it and he only asks me for
> 40% of the gross winnings.  It turns out, after taxes, that's ALL the
> winnings!").  The NASB and most all other English translations, change
> the verbs to past tense.  The NASB at least marks the verbs with an '*'
> to show they changed the tense to read more formally.
> 
> I realize we prefer not to use an '*' directly in the filter, but
> instead CSS to let the frontends decide how they wish to render these,
> but removing the '*' without providing proper CSS to insert an '*' or
> some other default rendering is a backwards step, and one specifically
> affecting the release of the NASB.
> 
> Troy
> 
> 
> On 02/05/2016 10:32 AM, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>> is this in svn head? Or simply a release?
>>  
>> Peter
>>  
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 05. Februar 2016 um 17:10 Uhr
>> *Von:* "DM Smith" <dmsmith at crosswire.org>
>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [sword-devel] transChange within a rdg element
>> At this point the code (osisxhtml) says:
>> if ((type == "added") || (type == "supplied"))
>>         outText("<span class=\"transChangeSupplied\">", buf, u);
>> else if (type == "tenseChange")
>>                 buf += "*";
>>  
>> Note: supplied is not a valid value for transChange and probably
>> represents an earlier OSIS text.
>>  
>> It really bother’s me that tenseChange is given with mark down. And that
>> none of the other transChange type attributes are passed as class values.
>>  
>> Here is how it handles catchWord and rdg.
>> // <catchWord> & <rdg> tags (italicize)
>> else if (!strcmp(tag.getName(), "rdg") || !strcmp(tag.getName(),
>> "catchWord")) {
>>         if ((!tag.isEndTag()) && (!tag.isEmpty())) {
>>                 outText("<i>", buf, u);
>>         }
>>         else if (tag.isEndTag()) {
>>                 outText("</i>", buf, u);
>>         }
>> }
>>  
>> This is not good. Probably should have been <span class=“…”> And catch
>> word should be styled as bold.
>>  
>> DM
>>  
>>
>>     On Feb 5, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
>>     wrote:
>>      
>>     At this point, I believe that SWORD hands off styling like that to the
>>     app to do with CSS (for those apps using HTML output). Does it not? I
>>     don't thin it's using <i> or <em>, although I could be wrong.
>>
>>     --Greg
>>
>>     On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:26 AM, David Haslam
>>     <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Something that DM and I have mooted.
>>
>>         When transChange is used within a rdg element (i.e. inside a
>>         note), and
>>         since SWORD renders text within a rdg as italics, then the text
>>         within the
>>         transChange ought ideally to be rendered as normal type in order
>>         to maintain
>>         the contrast with the other text that's in italics.
>>
>>         If not already done, please could this be patched in the SWORD
>>         source code.
>>
>>         DM will implement it in JSword.
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>
>>         David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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