[sword-devel] Scope

[Jonathan Morgan]

Hi DM,

Thanks for the comment.
I think caching brings us back to the question "Do we expect it to be at
chapter level or at book level"?
I think there are good arguments for chapter level being theoretically
helpful, but it could make a cached conf string much more unwieldy.
Which is JSword doing?

Jon

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:49 AM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:

> It is not fast, but is reasonably fast. It takes a look at the index file
> (not the data file) to see what verses have size. If size is 0, then that
> verse is not in the v11n. A book is present if all the verses have size 0.
>
> I’m pretty sure that both AndBible and STEP have this woven in.
> BibleDesktop needs to be released soon.
>
> I think that *some* frontends cache that in the module’s conf as an
> osisRef. BTW, cached in the module’s conf means it never gets out of date
> or specified wrongly.
>
> I think that Scope (and BookList) should be handled like InstallSize. That
> is, not specified by the module maker but computed and maintained on the
> server.
>
> — DM
>
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jonmmorgan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> If I read Chris' comment correctly, you wouldn't need to do put anything
> in the conf file.  It will automatically figure it out based on which books
> (and possibly chapters?) are in the Bible.
> This roughly matches the direction discussion took in the original thread,
> as enough people found enough problems with having a scope specifier in the
> conf file.
>
> So long as this performs OK I think it's a great solution, because it
> tells you exactly what is in the Bible, and won't get specified wrongly or
> fall out of date.
> Main advantage: Module maker doesn't have to specify the scope.  It "just
> works".
> Main disadvantage: Frontend developers have to implement it :(
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Peter Von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> Ah brilliant.
>>
>> So something in Jsword but not yet in Sword?
>>
>> What is the exact syntax a conf file entry should have? I would try this
>> out immediately.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 08. Januar 2015 um 10:58 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Chris Burrell" <chris at burrell.me.uk>
>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [sword-devel] Scope
>>  Hi David
>>
>> The discussion did result into code on the JSword project. We now have
>> JSword specific configuration that is populated automatically by examining
>> content (as well as front-end specific configuration).
>>
>> We have a 'scope' and a 'book list'
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On 8 January 2015 at 10:51, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In another thread from 2008, Chris made an important observation about
>>> OSIS
>>> Scope.
>>>
>>> It's also a little ambiguous.
>>> How many books are included in the scope Gen-Rev? 66? 73?
>>> It's always depended on context.
>>>
>>> But as we have added av11n since then, this worry may no longer be
>>> critical.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
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