[sword-devel] ISV status?

[Andrew Thule]

Peter, I will honour your request with respect to the modules whose
distributions are restricted to Crosswire.

Please understand that the distribution rights of all modules not
exclusively restricted to Crosswire are set by the Copyright owner and so
as long as the licenses are being honoured you have no authority to try to
control downstream usage as this list has already clarified.

~A


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter, I've still received nothing from you.   No modules currently
> restricted to Crosswire are available ..
>
> If I'm wrong, please identify.
>
> ~A
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Sorry for top posting.
>>
>> You were yesterday off list notified, with detailed evidence that you are
>> distributing dozens and dozens of copyrighted modules for which you have no
>> permission.
>>
>> There appears to be no change to that when I checked last s couple of
>> hours ago. So your repeated on-list reassurances  to be willing to follow
>> our guidance sound hollow and thoroughly dishonest to me.
>>
>> Wrt submission of modules, the wiki describes the process well. To be
>> submitted osis files are to be sent  to modules at crosswire. Org.
>> Sent from my HTC
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Andrew Thule" <thulester at gmail.com>
>> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>> Subject: [sword-devel] ISV status?
>> Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 06:06
>>
>>
>> Chris, I should add in response to your last comment, if you ever find
>> I'm distributing something I shouldn't be - please don't hesitate to tell
>> me.  I'm more than happy to remove it.
>>
>>
>> As it stands now however I have done exactly what you asked when you've
>> asked - so you should have no complaint against me.
>>
>> ~A
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Chris Little <chrislit at crosswire.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I credit you for taking it down, but you haven't explained why YOU felt
>>>> it was YOUR place to do it in the first place. 'Andrew Thule posts the
>>>> module on his FTP site' is not part of our release process.
>>>
>>>
>>> Because I was trying to help.  I assumed that module development was
>>> covered under licenses, and have no other way to share modules I create
>>> with members of this list.
>>>
>>> The wiki doesn't prohibit the sharing of Copyrighted modules under
>>> development, so it was reasonable to assume since the module itself was
>>> being distributed to the word, modules being developed could be distributed
>>> also.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yet, why would that have anything at all to do with you? You have no
>>>> connection to the publishers, you didn't do the conversion, and you are in
>>>> no way a part of the release process.
>>>>
>>>> You say you checked the distribution rights presented in isv.conf, but
>>>> it contained exactly the string present in those modules that we have told
>>>> you in the past that you may not re-distribute. You prevent reading of
>>>> other such .confs on your FTP site, so you're clearly aware that this is
>>>> material you should not be re-distributing. But you did it anyway, because
>>>> you're content to act without thinking.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm a member of this list, trying to help, volunteering my time, and
>>> Nic's question wasn't directed at anyone in particular.  He was asking
>>> about a version of the ISV which contained the OT, which I had.
>>>
>>> Why wouldn't it have anything to do with me?  Is there something
>>> somewhere that says only certain members of this list can help?  Where does
>>> it say only those folks directly connected to the publisher can make
>>> improvements?
>>>
>>> Yes, as in my other response, you're still pressing away at the false
>>> idea I ignored the licenses.  You still have to clarify that bit with
>>> respect to who can and who cannot offer improvements and whether or not
>>> development is excluded from 'distribution'.  I was offering an improved
>>> module (and OSIS) TO Crosswire for distribution by Crosswire's repo.
>>>
>>> I admit that my thinking is limited at times.  In this case it is
>>> limited by what I don't know - which is why you've been asked for
>>> clarification.
>>>
>>> ~A
>>>
>>>
>>
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