[sword-devel] ISV status?

[Andrew Thule]

Peter, I've still received nothing from you.   No modules currently
restricted to Crosswire are available ..

If I'm wrong, please identify.

~A


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:

> **
> Sorry for top posting.
>
> You were yesterday off list notified, with detailed evidence that you are
> distributing dozens and dozens of copyrighted modules for which you have no
> permission.
>
> There appears to be no change to that when I checked last s couple of
> hours ago. So your repeated on-list reassurances  to be willing to follow
> our guidance sound hollow and thoroughly dishonest to me.
>
> Wrt submission of modules, the wiki describes the process well. To be
> submitted osis files are to be sent  to modules at crosswire. Org.
> Sent from my HTC
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Andrew Thule" <thulester at gmail.com>
> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Subject: [sword-devel] ISV status?
> Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2013 06:06
>
>
> Chris, I should add in response to your last comment, if you ever find I'm
> distributing something I shouldn't be - please don't hesitate to tell me.
> I'm more than happy to remove it.
>
>
> As it stands now however I have done exactly what you asked when you've
> asked - so you should have no complaint against me.
>
> ~A
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Chris Little <chrislit at crosswire.org>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I credit you for taking it down, but you haven't explained why YOU felt
>>> it was YOUR place to do it in the first place. 'Andrew Thule posts the
>>> module on his FTP site' is not part of our release process.
>>
>>
>> Because I was trying to help.  I assumed that module development was
>> covered under licenses, and have no other way to share modules I create
>> with members of this list.
>>
>> The wiki doesn't prohibit the sharing of Copyrighted modules under
>> development, so it was reasonable to assume since the module itself was
>> being distributed to the word, modules being developed could be distributed
>> also.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Yet, why would that have anything at all to do with you? You have no
>>> connection to the publishers, you didn't do the conversion, and you are in
>>> no way a part of the release process.
>>>
>>> You say you checked the distribution rights presented in isv.conf, but
>>> it contained exactly the string present in those modules that we have told
>>> you in the past that you may not re-distribute. You prevent reading of
>>> other such .confs on your FTP site, so you're clearly aware that this is
>>> material you should not be re-distributing. But you did it anyway, because
>>> you're content to act without thinking.
>>
>>
>> I'm a member of this list, trying to help, volunteering my time, and
>> Nic's question wasn't directed at anyone in particular.  He was asking
>> about a version of the ISV which contained the OT, which I had.
>>
>> Why wouldn't it have anything to do with me?  Is there something
>> somewhere that says only certain members of this list can help?  Where does
>> it say only those folks directly connected to the publisher can make
>> improvements?
>>
>> Yes, as in my other response, you're still pressing away at the false
>> idea I ignored the licenses.  You still have to clarify that bit with
>> respect to who can and who cannot offer improvements and whether or not
>> development is excluded from 'distribution'.  I was offering an improved
>> module (and OSIS) TO Crosswire for distribution by Crosswire's repo.
>>
>> I admit that my thinking is limited at times.  In this case it is limited
>> by what I don't know - which is why you've been asked for clarification.
>>
>> ~A
>>
>>
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