[sword-devel] ISV status?

Thu Jan 3 13:44:52 MST 2013

I just thought about this a bit more .. I suppose that's what "Version=1.5"
is for ...

Nevermind.
~A

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification DM.
> Perhaps for the sake of clarity then, the .conf file's
> "DistributionLicense=" attribute could contain the version for which
> permission was granted (rather than appearing to be generic).
>
> ~A
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
>> I can see how you might conclude that.
>>
>> However, when we get permission for a copyrighted work, we get permission
>> for that copyright. If the work is updated, there is a new copyright and we
>> have to obtain permission for that.
>>
>> In Him,
>> DM
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I should add that prior to doing anything I did check the isv.conf file
>> which says this:
>> DistributionLicense=Copyrighted; Permission to distribute granted to
>> CrossWire
>>
>>
>> From .conf file at least, any reasonable person would conclude that
>> permission had already been obtained to distribute (and redistribute) ISV
>> and any additional revisions.
>>
>> ~A
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Thule <thulester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Come now Peter, don't be so quick to find fault.
>>>
>>> The Crosswire repository currently contains version 1.5 of the ISV
>>> module.  Nic's question was asking about the inclusion of the OT in that
>>> module.  The Crosswire site doesn't say anything about the status of this
>>> module, and Nic's question seems to suggest he was not aware Crosswire was
>>> prohibited from distributed a later versions of this module.  His comment
>>> was specifically asking about the ISV with OT included suggesting this was
>>> already  direction that was being pursued.
>>>
>>> I was trying to extend an offer to help (as a volunteer).  I certainly
>>> wasn't aware that permission hadn't been obtained to distribute the ISV
>>> with the OT, and the fact the ISV is already distributed with the NT
>>> suggests (perhaps incorrectly) that permission has been already obtained.
>>> Once Chris made it known that Crosswire has no such permission to
>>> distribute newer versions of the ISV I did exactly as Chris asked.  So what
>>> infraction have I committed now?
>>>
>>> Respectfully, if every time a newcomer or volunteer's offer is met with
>>> criticism or controversy the treatment of newcomers and volunteers in this
>>> group is going to appear somewhat suspect and unwelcoming.  It's a very
>>> good way to drive people away from a project.  If my lack of awareness of
>>> this prohibition on the ISV is why you're asking me to leave - that says
>>> much about this community.
>>>
>>> Now that I know Crosswire doesn't have permission to distribute versions
>>> of the ISV other than the one currently in the repository, I'll respect
>>> that.  If others feel as you do, that outside contributions are unwelcome
>>> here - I will kick the sand from my sandals and leave
>>>
>>> ~A
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:20 PM, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew, this is now quite enough. Please desist posting further onto
>>>> our list. Your presence is undesired
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>> From: "Andrew Thule" <thulester at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>>> Subject: [sword-devel] ISV status?
>>>> Date: Thu, Jan 3, 2013 18:53
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Done.
>>>>
>>>> I made it available here only in response to this request ..
>>>>
>>>> ~A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Chris Little <chrislit at crosswire.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andrew, this document is copyrighted. We do not have permission to
>>>>> distribute it. You certainly and absolutely do not have permission to
>>>>> distribute it, much less to distribute it and claim that we have permission
>>>>> to distribute it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remove it immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/3/2013 9:37 AM, Andrew Thule wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe there's an OSIS file that contains both testaments ... I can
>>>>>> forward it if it helps this effort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are least two versification problems (I haven't bothered to
>>>>>> address yet)
>>>>>> INFO(V11N): 1Sam.11 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content
>>>>>> to 1Sam.10.27
>>>>>> INFO(V11N): Rev.13 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Rev.12.17
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've placed a mod based on this OSIS file in my repo if anyone
>>>>>> interested:
>>>>>> Repository: 1XO
>>>>>> Host: ftp.1xo.net <http://ftp.1xo.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /1xo/pub/sword/betaraw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Nic Carter <niccarter at mac.com
>>>>>> <mailto:niccarter at mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Team :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I was wondering where we were at with updating the ISV to include
>>>>>>     both the OT & NT?
>>>>>>     There was some chatter here about a year ago about it, but it
>>>>>>     sounded yuck, given we needed to convert the text from a Word
>>>>>>     document...  :/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thanks, ybic
>>>>>>              nic...  :)
>>>>>>
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