[sword-devel] OSIS variants

[Chris Little]

We have probably got a few Bibles released that use the markup suggested 
in the Wiki. It looks like I either forgot to write or forgot to commit 
the code to actually make this work in Sword.

How to represent ketiv & qere readings in OSIS depends on how you 
interpret them and how you want to display them.

If you want to place the qere reading within a note identifying it as a 
secondary reading, then the markup suggested by the OSIS manual is what 
you should follow. (<note><rdg type="alternate">...</rdg></note>) This 
is essentially what the printed BHS does, and this will work correctly 
in Sword already.

If you want to allow the user to toggle the two readings in place, so 
that the program displays either the ketiv, the qere, or both, then you 
should follow the markup suggested by our Wiki. (<seg type="x-variant" 
subType="x-1">...</seg><seg type="x-variant" subType="x-2">...</seg>)

I'm not actually sure that toggling readings makes that much sense in 
general. The use of OSIS <rdg> in <note> makes more sense, both for 
ketiv/qere readings and the GNTs that have variant readings.

Note that <rdg> must occur within <note>. I believe you can place it in 
a <p> outside of <note>, but this is an unintended side effect of the 
limitations of XML Schema. If OSIS moves to a more powerful schema 
language, these types of problems might be fixed.

--Chris


On 1/7/2010 3:59 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
> Troy,
>
> With a hint from David Troidl, I see now that on p. 82 of the OSIS
> manual the rdg element can contain w elements. I suppose the markup
> could look like this:
>
> <rdg type="alternate" subType="x-ketiv"><w
> lemma="strong:H0318">הוצא</w></rdg><rdg type="alternate"
> subType="x-qere"><w lemma="strong:H3318">הַיְצֵ֣א</w></rdg>
>
> Would that link the two sufficiently? I am guessing a bit on the subType
> attribute. I suppose it could be x-1 and x-2, with x-1 defined as Ketiv
> and x-2 defined as Qere.
>
> Anyway, that's as far as I've gotten.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 1/7/2010 4:08 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Thanks for pushing this. I've looked at the OSISVariants filter and it
>> does indeed look (as stated in the Jira report by you and Chris) that it
>> has never been used for anything useful. I'll try to nail down the
>> exact syntax for OSIS variant readings in general (not simply qere, as
>> we will have phrases and such in the NT) and update the filter to work
>> with this syntax. I'm not sure what authoritative source was used for
>> whoever posted the wiki example-- it may be exactly correct, but I would
>> like to see something in the schema, user manual, or osis-core post
>> confirming the syntax before we settle on one to support for our
>> filter. Should be quick to code once the syntax is nailed down.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/07/2010 01:36 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>> Sorry to answer my own post, but I see that OSISVariants is a global
>>> option filter. I have added that to the wiki. Now to figure out how to
>>> mark it up in OSIS...
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On 1/7/2010 2:27 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
>>>> I see that SWORD supports ThML variants very well, but I am trying to
>>>> create a module with variants in OSIS. Consulting the wiki, I see
>>>> that I should mark these up as follows:
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-variant" subType="x-1"><w
>>>> lemma="strong:H0318">הוצא</w></seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-variant" subType="x-2"><w
>>>> lemma="strong:H3318">הַיְצֵ֣א</w></seg>
>>>>
>>>> However, since there is no conf option for this, both variants show
>>>> up in the text (Xiphos and BibleTime). This is the way the current
>>>> WLC module displays the Ketiv/Qere readings, but I would like to
>>>> produce a module that allows you to toggle between Ketiv/Qere
>>>> readings. Is this a part of the engine that hasn't made it to the
>>>> front-ends, or am I missing a conf file option (or just out to lunch)?
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
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