Daniel Glassey sword-devel@crosswire.org
Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:08:33 +0000

btw Just for background this is Wycliffe Associates(UK) that is doing
this rather than Wycliffe/SIL. WA(UK)
http://www.wycliffeassociates.org.uk/ is a volunteer organisation and
afaict the reason they are using MS Word is because that is generally
what you get in one form or another when you buy your average pc here so
it is what the volunteers will have (I'd guess the discount would be
available for those that don't have it already.).

My choice would be to modify AbiWord to do the stuff since it will run
on any machine that'll run win95 or newer. However I don't think I'll
have time to do that so I'd just like to encourage anyone that thinks
they might be able to help (OO.o, MSWord, AbiWord, whatever) to do so :)


P.S. Hi Trevor :)

P.P.S. Here is Troy's original mail on the subject in case anyone missed

        Thank you for considering working together with us for our
Lord.  I 
really enjoy the hearts of the people I've met who are involved with 

        I bet we can get something working solid for you.  Not sure if
Landin explained what CrossWire is all about, but briefly, we're a place
where engineers can come and volunteer their time freely for projects 
geared toward spreading the Great News of our Lord.

        Your idea about giving us a first hand experience of the current
situation sounds wise!  Personally, I haven't used Visual Basic or VBA 
for years!  But I'm sure many of our developers are up to speed in this 
area.  If you want to send the material to me, I will get it into the 
hands of capable engineers and we'll give you our prognosis and then we 
can go from there.

        Also, not sure if you've seen our latest work, but we have been
on an addition to our free software for the ABS and the SBL hopefully in
time for the SBL meeting next week.  You can see a preview at:


        This web interface to our software engine is easily installed on
any server and dynamically serves any installed books that it finds.  If
you'd like to consider making your commentaries available in the OSIS 
format, you'd be able to take advantage of this tool and the many other 
software products that you can see on our home page at:


        Anyway we can help, it's our pleasure to serve you in your
for our Lord.  That's why we're here.

        In Christ,
                -Troy A. Griffitts.     

EasyEnglish Webmaster wrote:
> Hi Troy
> My name is John Williams and I work in my spare time on a voluntary
> for Wycliffe Associates UK. David Landin (the director of Wycliffe
> Associates UK) has suggested that I contact you because you may be
able to
> help us with a project that I am involved in.
> The project is called EasyEnglish. It involves writing Bible
commentaries in
> simple English for the benefit of pastors and other Christians who do
> have commentaries in their own language but are able to speak a little
> English and are able to read material with a very small vocabulary and
> simple grammar.
> We publish our commentaries on our website (www.easyenglish.info) and
> provide them free of charge on CD-ROM. The website is becoming very
> and the commentaries have spread all over the world - 170 countries at
> last count. They are used by individuals and also by pastors,
> Bible study leaders, Sunday school teachers and others in a wide
variety of
> ministries. We are still working on the commentaries and adding more
> materials to our website each month.
> In order to standardize the vocabulary and grammar in our
commentaries, I
> have written a set of VBA macros which form an add-in to Microsoft
> These macros are used by our EasyEnglish authors when they write and
> the Bible commentaries. This has worked sufficiently well to get our
> off the ground but it does have some difficulties. I think the main
> is that our authors use different versions of Windows and Word and
> slight differences can cause problems with the macros. Also, we don't
have a
> proper installation program - we just have a set of instructions that
> authors have to follow. Most of our authors are not expert Word users
> expert computer users) and this can cause problems.
> If you feel you are able to help us in this project, I think the first
> would be for someone to evaluate our current set of macros from a
> developer's point of view and suggest improvements that could be made.
> possibility might be to replace our VBA macros with a stand-alone exe
> program.
> I think the best way would be for us to send you a copy of the VBA
> together with the instructions we send out to new authors. You would
then be
> able to experience the difficulties "first hand" and be in a good
> to advise and help us.
> Regards
> John

On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 13:19, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Don A. Elbourne Jr. <delbourne@cox.net> wrote:
> > I don't use MS Word. What exactly do these macros do? I wonder if it would
> > be better to do something in OpenOffice.org that would do the same thing.
> > Migrating to OOo would save a lot of money in the long run.
> I agree that migrating Wycliffe/SIL to OOo would save them some cash.
> However, it isn't quite as much of a saving as first appears. They are a
> charity and therefore eligible for sizable discounts. Of course, even with
> discounts it is still more expensive than using the OOo. (I don't work for
> Wycliffe/SIL but have talked with the UK local IT manager about some of
> these issue in the past.)
> Regards, Trevor
> <>< Re: deemed!