[sword-devel] Radically simpler Bible software: more feasible to internationalize (looking for volunteers)

Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:42:21 +0200

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Hi Lynn,
I would be more than happy to help with the Greek.
I attach a file with all book names in greek in 3 forms:
1. Full book name version 1
2. Full book name version 2
3. Abbreviated book names
These are the ones used in "The Word".

The association is obvious.
There is also a translation for "Search Phrase" and "Count". The "GO" cannot
be translated with
such a short word, so you could use an image or one character (e.g ">").

The file is encoded in win1253 (the same to iso-8859-7).
Greek windows charset is 161 (GREEK_CHARSET), which you should set in the
tree navigation
component font to correctly display greek (and the static). I can test this
easily.

In Christ,
Costas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Allan" <l.allan@att.net>
To: <sword-devel@crosswire.org>
Cc: "Candace Allan" <candace@v7pc.org>; "Troy A. Griffitts"
<scribe@crosswire.org>; "Costas I. Stergiou" <csterg@cc.ece.ntua.gr>;
<mpj@eBible.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: [sword-devel] Radically simpler Bible software: more feasible to
internationalize (looking for volunteers)

> Hi members of sword-devel:
>
> Something that hadn't occurred to me, but seems to be a point in favor of
> radically simpler Bible software: It should be more feasible to
> internationalize.
>
> I've exchanged eMails with the Rev. Michael Paul Johnson, the translator
> (author?) of the WEB (World English Bible). In other writing, he has
> stressed something I found interesting. He is burdened by the lack of
Bibles
> for non-English speaking people groups. God in His providence has blessed
us
> in the English speaking nations with a rich choice of excellent Bibles
> (including the WEB ... thanks mpj :-).
>
> <alert ... sarcasm meter pegged and blantant digression>
> In fact, our fallen nature causes there to be unproductive and heated
> arguments about the merits of one vs the others. Gosh, I'm sure that it
> looks great to the nonbelievers out there as they listen to members of the
> visible church debating whether it is the KJV or the NIV that is Satanic.
I
> thank God for both. I look forward to meeting people who were killed
> defending the KJV. Similarily, I want to express my thanks to the many
> brilliant translators who participated on the NIV team. I have to believe
> that it was more than just a job to put food on the table.
> <nuff said ... all clear>
>
> I believe Troy G pointed out that the Bible is so powerful that even a
> relatively inadequate translation can penetrate the heart of a person whom
> the Holy Spirit is working on. (Or someone else on this list, or maybe
mpj,
> but it has the wisdom of something that our very own, much appreciated
Troy
> G. would point out.)
>
> My wife and I have been impressed by how God has used the NIrV to clarify
> difficult verses in Romans, and it is intentionally written at a middle
> school reading level. That's powerful (leaving aside what that says about
my
> lack of intellect :-)
>
> Back to the point about facilitating internationalization: As the LcdBible
> now stands, it would be nearly trivial to internationalize. There are 27
> books of the New Testament, and the words "Search Phrase". That's it. 29
wor
> ds. Probably 15 minutes with Google?
>
> As a person who took two years in Spanish over 35 years ago, I suspect I
> could prepare a Spanish version of the LcdBible software in much less than
a
> day. As a person who knows no more than four words of French, I would
> suspect it would also take less than a day for me to prepare a French
> version of the LcdBible software.  In fact, I will proceed to tackle this.
> I've got lessons to prepare for this evening, so I can't start today.
> Tomorrow morning, I will commence translating the LcdBible to Spanish and
> French. I will have a red face if I haven't got these working by COB
(Close
> Of Business) on Friday.
>
> I took a look at BibleCs and the FreeLSG (French?) with this in mind.
Sure,
> the Bible text shows up in the "viewer" in French, but everything else on
> the page is in English. Internationalization would involve hundreds, even
> thousands of words to be dealt with.Quick, what is "Transliteration" in
> French? I don't find it obvious what this function does, so even if I was
a
> French person who spoke decent English, I would have to look at the Help
> information about "Transliteration". This Help information, of course,
would
> have to be in French to be meaningful: hundreds more words to translate.
>
> Who among The SWORD Project's BibleCS volunteers has the
> time/talent/interest to do this?  At some point, our French end-user would
> throw up their hands in defeat/frustration if everything besides the Bible
> text was in English. (Granted, you wouldn't have to translate each and
every
> word used by the BibleCS software to be useful. A subset would suffice to
> provide very basic functionality.  Also, I may be unaware of an
> internationalized version of the BibleCS software itself.)
>
> Here's a link to the LcdBible software, with a prayer that some people
> reading this might be led to help translate. (It is at or near Beta
> maturity, but has some rough edges and lacks documentation. I claim it
does
> a very few things reasonably well. YMMV) Costas, how about contributing to
a
> Greek version of the LcdBible software?
>
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lcdbible/LcdBibleSetup_0_60b.exe?download
>
> Here's a link to the Requirements and Design document that further
discusses
> the LcdBible software (feedback appreciated):
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lcdbible/LcdBibleReqDesign.doc
>
> All I need is:
> Search Phrase = ???
> Matthew = ???
> Mark = ???
> Luke = ???
> John = ???
> etc.
>
> <Alert ... another aside>
> Costas has put together what I believe to be an excellent Bible freeware
> package. I enthusiastically encourage you to look at his site and download
> his 1.1 version. The LcdBible software has benefited from observing some
> things he has done with "The Word". Here are some links:
> http://www.theword.gr/en/
> http://www.theword.gr/bin/theword-en-1.1-full.exe
>
> My 2 alt-155 worth, and
> Sharing the reason for the season,
> http://learningcards.eeworks.org/EeCard01.html
>
> Lynn l.allan@att.net
>
>
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