[osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a mistake when we added it?

[Todd Tillinghast]

Will <lb/> be available outside of <l>?

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Durusau
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:57 AM
> To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> Subject: Re: [osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a mistake when we
> added it?
> 
> Todd,
> 
> Just deprecating <milestonePT type="line'/>. Not eliminating so to
avoid
> breaking prior documents.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> 
> >Patrick,
> >
> >So <lb/> will NOT be limited to <l> and will talk the place of
> ><milestonePT type="line"/>.  Is this correct?
> >
> >(I am not disagreeing only trying to clarify the conclusion.)
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>[mailto:osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of
> >>Patrick Durusau
> >>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:07 AM
> >>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>Subject: Re: [osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a mistake
> >>when we added it?
> >>
> >>
> >>Todd,
> >>
> >>Going to leave milestonePt type of line but deprecate.
> >>
> >>Note that <lb/> carries the type attribute (occupied in
> >>milestonePt) so
> >>publishers can classify the <lb/> for one column display, two column
> >>display, etc.
> >>
> >>Hope you are having a great day!
> >>
> >>Patrick
> >>
> >>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Chris,
> >>>
> >>>What do you mean by "orthographic" lines?  Can you give a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>few examples?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Todd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core-
> >>>>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:47 PM
> >>>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
> >>>>Subject: Re: [osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>mistake when we
> >>
> >>
> >>>>added it?
> >>>>
> >>>>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>><snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I don't think marking linebreaks (in addition to the lines
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>themselves)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>in poetry is a common occurrence at all.  I've never seen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>it outside
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>the CEV, and I think that occurrence is arguably bad practice,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>though
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>it's not our place to fix the translators' mistakes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>I agree that it is a more rare case and that my perspective is
> >>>>>influenced by spending time with the CEV.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If it is RARE then we should consider REMOVING <lb/> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>forcing the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>CEV
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>(who may likely be the sole user of the <lb/> element) to use
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>><milestone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>type="line"/> and admit that we were unduly influenced by a
single
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>text
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>at the time of the meeting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Well, we didn't necessarily make a mistake by adding <lb/>.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> I really
> >>
> >>
> >>>>think it's reasonable to switch to <lb> from <milestone
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>type="line">,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>especially if <lb> has special types associated with it.
> >>>>
> >>>>I also think it would be sensible to state that all
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>orthographic lines
> >>
> >>
> >>>>should be marked by <lb> rather than <l>, which would make
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >><lb> much
> >>
> >>
> >>>>more common than it currently is, at least outside of Bibles.
> >>>>
> >>>>--Chris
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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