[osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a mistake when we added it?

Patrick Durusau osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:56:32 -0400


Todd,

Just deprecating <milestonePT type="line'/>. Not eliminating so to avoid 
breaking prior documents.

Patrick

Todd Tillinghast wrote:

>Patrick,
>
>So <lb/> will NOT be limited to <l> and will talk the place of
><milestonePT type="line"/>.  Is this correct?
>
>(I am not disagreeing only trying to clarify the conclusion.)
>
>Todd
>
>  
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org 
>>[mailto:osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Patrick Durusau
>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:07 AM
>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>Subject: Re: [osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a mistake 
>>when we added it?
>>
>>
>>Todd,
>>
>>Going to leave milestonePt type of line but deprecate.
>>
>>Note that <lb/> carries the type attribute (occupied in 
>>milestonePt) so 
>>publishers can classify the <lb/> for one column display, two column 
>>display, etc.
>>
>>Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
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>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>What do you mean by "orthographic" lines?  Can you give a 
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>>few examples?
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>>>Todd
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>>> 
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: osis-core-admin@bibletechnologieswg.org [mailto:osis-core- 
>>>>admin@bibletechnologieswg.org] On Behalf Of Chris Little
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:47 PM
>>>>To: osis-core@bibletechnologieswg.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [osis-core] <lb> element - did we make a 
>>>>        
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>>mistake when we 
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>>>>added it?
>>>>
>>>>Todd Tillinghast wrote:
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>>>>><snip>
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>>>>>>I don't think marking linebreaks (in addition to the lines
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>>>themselves)
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>>>>>>in poetry is a common occurrence at all.  I've never seen 
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>>it outside
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>>>>>of
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>>>>>>the CEV, and I think that occurrence is arguably bad practice,
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>>>though
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>>>>>>it's not our place to fix the translators' mistakes.
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>>>>>I agree that it is a more rare case and that my perspective is 
>>>>>influenced by spending time with the CEV.
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>>>>>If it is RARE then we should consider REMOVING <lb/> and 
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>>forcing the
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>>>CEV
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>>>>>(who may likely be the sole user of the <lb/> element) to use
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>>><milestone
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>>>>>type="line"/> and admit that we were unduly influenced by a single
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>>>text
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>>>>>at the time of the meeting.
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>>>>Well, we didn't necessarily make a mistake by adding <lb/>. 
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>> I really 
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>>>>think it's reasonable to switch to <lb> from <milestone 
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>>type="line">, 
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>>>>especially if <lb> has special types associated with it.
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>>>>I also think it would be sensible to state that all 
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>>orthographic lines 
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>>>>should be marked by <lb> rather than <l>, which would make 
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>><lb> much 
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>>>>more common than it currently is, at least outside of Bibles.
>>>>
>>>>--Chris
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>>Director of Research and Development
>>Society of Biblical Literature
>>Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org
>>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
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