[server-admins] Firebird Server pegging

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Presentation in a few hours, no time to respond in detail.

I'd lke the opportunity to convince you of the benefit of the big 
picture of having a collaborative online community building new datasets 
and managing their own projects with a set of expanding specialized 
tools for these projects.

In the meantime, check out the liferay forum link I sent:
http://www.liferay.com/community/forums

It supports all of what you list and I would suggest is better supported 
than myBB forum.  Liferay is an enterprise portal solution with an 
opensource edition.  It is used by Barclays, Sesame Street, Toyota, 
Cisco, T-Mobile and other large companies. It is the primary portal 
installation offered by Redhat OpenShift:
https://www.openshift.com/developers/java
Ubuntu JuJu:
https://jujucharms.com/

and others.

I believe it is a good choice for all the reasons you list and more.  
Gotta run for now.

Troy




On 11/21/2013 02:40 PM, Chris Little wrote:
> This seems like a really bad idea. The reason for choosing mvnForum 
> was that it was built on JSP & Firebird. That wasn't a particularly 
> good reasons to choose it as a forum solution, and now we have poorly 
> supported forum software.
>
> Troy, it sounds like you're proposing we choose another solution on 
> the basis of its underlying technology rather than its actual 
> functional merits. I really can't see any value to searching for forum 
> software that can function as a portlet. And if we switch to another 
> poorly supported, unpopular forum solution, we're going to be in 
> exactly the same situation within a few years as we're in now.
>
> Our requirements are fairly limited:
> free, open, mature, & maintained software
> support for threads & quoting
> support for spam blocking, better CAPTCHAs, & good user management
>
> MyBB seems to fit that bill well enough. And picking a popular 
> solution like myBB is probably more important than all of these since 
> we can benefit from plugins, regular updates, etc.
>
>
> FWIW I don't think we should worry about migrating the existing forum 
> content over. We can leave registrations disabled (which tentatively 
> appears to have eliminated the server pegging issue--jira is the 
> current top CPU consumer, with fbserver not visible when I run top). 
> When we have new forums up, we can disable logins to mvnForum. And in 
> a year or so, I wouldn't object to our nuking mvnForum from the server 
> altogether.
>
> Also FWIW, I don't particularly see a need to consult with 
> sword-devel. We already had a bit of discussion of forum software, and 
> now I consider it to be an issue for server admins--the people who 
> will actually install & support the forum software.
>
> --Chris
>
>
> On 11/20/2013 7:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> I'd prefer not to take the conversation to sword-devel. Now that I am
>> done with my project for the INTF, my hope is to utilize the frameworks
>> I've built for projects at CrossWire. This includes running a liferay
>> installation which is a fully compliant JSR-168 and 286 portlet
>> container as well as an OpenSocial container. I'm sure we could find a
>> forum portlet or use the one that ships with liferay. You can see it
>> their forums in action on their own site if you'd like to evaluate:
>>
>> http://www.liferay.com/community/forums
>>
>>
>> DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Chris Little 
>> <chrislit at crosswire.org> wrote:
>>
>>         On 11/20/2013 11:07 AM, DM Smith wrote:
>>
>>             Do you want me to stop the fb server?
>>
>>             What are the web apps that use it? (besides news and forums)
>>
>>             News can't possibly be creating the problem. For all
>>             practical purposes,
>>             it is read-only.
>>
>>             Can we make the forums read-only and put up a banner that it
>>             is locked down?
>>
>>             -- DM
>>
>>
>>         I disabled new registrations on the servers, which I predict
>>         will prevent the pegging problem.
>>
>>         I couldn't find a sensible way to switch off registrations
>>         through the admin panel, so I went after the addmember.jsp file
>>         itself and moved it to
>> /home/forums/servers/main/webapps/forums/mvnplugin/mvnforum/user/addmember.bak
>>
>>         --Chris
>>
>>
>>     I've been looking for a replacement. Should we take the 
>> discussion to sword-devel?
>>
>>     I think the key features that people have mentioned are:
>>       Something that is actively maintained.
>>       Something that does threading and quoting.
>>       Something w/ decent spam and user management support.
>>       Must work on RHEL 6. Good if it is part of the distribution.
>>       Open source
>>
>>     The most popular db for forums is mysql. Very few work w/ firebird.
>>
>>     I'm willing to be an active admin for the software and database, 
>> but not the forum.
>>
>>     If we can come up w/ something to try, I can install it this 
>> weekend. Maybe sooner.
>>
>>     How about we try "myBB"?
>>
>>     Seehttp://myBB.com/features
>>
>>
>>     If we want to import current rather than start over empty:
>>
>>     vBulletin can import from mvnForum. It's the only one I could 
>> find that handles mvnForum.
>>
>>     myBB can import from vBulletin.
>>
>>     -- DM
>>
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