[server-admins] Firebird Server pegging

[Chris Little]

This seems like a really bad idea. The reason for choosing mvnForum was 
that it was built on JSP & Firebird. That wasn't a particularly good 
reasons to choose it as a forum solution, and now we have poorly 
supported forum software.

Troy, it sounds like you're proposing we choose another solution on the 
basis of its underlying technology rather than its actual functional 
merits. I really can't see any value to searching for forum software 
that can function as a portlet. And if we switch to another poorly 
supported, unpopular forum solution, we're going to be in exactly the 
same situation within a few years as we're in now.

Our requirements are fairly limited:
free, open, mature, & maintained software
support for threads & quoting
support for spam blocking, better CAPTCHAs, & good user management

MyBB seems to fit that bill well enough. And picking a popular solution 
like myBB is probably more important than all of these since we can 
benefit from plugins, regular updates, etc.


FWIW I don't think we should worry about migrating the existing forum 
content over. We can leave registrations disabled (which tentatively 
appears to have eliminated the server pegging issue--jira is the current 
top CPU consumer, with fbserver not visible when I run top). When we 
have new forums up, we can disable logins to mvnForum. And in a year or 
so, I wouldn't object to our nuking mvnForum from the server altogether.

Also FWIW, I don't particularly see a need to consult with sword-devel. 
We already had a bit of discussion of forum software, and now I consider 
it to be an issue for server admins--the people who will actually 
install & support the forum software.

--Chris


On 11/20/2013 7:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> I'd prefer not to take the conversation to sword-devel. Now that I am
> done with my project for the INTF, my hope is to utilize the frameworks
> I've built for projects at CrossWire. This includes running a liferay
> installation which is a fully compliant JSR-168 and 286 portlet
> container as well as an OpenSocial container. I'm sure we could find a
> forum portlet or use the one that ships with liferay. You can see it
> their forums in action on their own site if you'd like to evaluate:
>
> http://www.liferay.com/community/forums
>
>
> DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
>
>     On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Chris Little <chrislit at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
>         On 11/20/2013 11:07 AM, DM Smith wrote:
>
>             Do you want me to stop the fb server?
>
>             What are the web apps that use it? (besides news and forums)
>
>             News can't possibly be creating the problem. For all
>             practical purposes,
>             it is read-only.
>
>             Can we make the forums read-only and put up a banner that it
>             is locked down?
>
>             -- DM
>
>
>         I disabled new registrations on the servers, which I predict
>         will prevent the pegging problem.
>
>         I couldn't find a sensible way to switch off registrations
>         through the admin panel, so I went after the addmember.jsp file
>         itself and moved it to
>         /home/forums/servers/main/webapps/forums/mvnplugin/mvnforum/user/addmember.bak
>
>         --Chris
>
>
>     I've been looking for a replacement. Should we take the discussion to sword-devel?
>
>     I think the key features that people have mentioned are:
>       Something that is actively maintained.
>       Something that does threading and quoting.
>       Something w/ decent spam and user management support.
>       Must work on RHEL 6. Good if it is part of the distribution.
>       Open source
>
>     The most popular db for forums is mysql. Very few work w/ firebird.
>
>     I'm willing to be an active admin for the software and database, but not the forum.
>
>     If we can come up w/ something to try, I can install it this weekend. Maybe sooner.
>
>     How about we try "myBB"?
>
>     Seehttp://myBB.com/features
>
>
>     If we want to import current rather than start over empty:
>
>     vBulletin can import from mvnForum. It's the only one I could find that handles mvnForum.
>
>     myBB can import from vBulletin.
>
>     -- DM
>
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