[tyndale-devel] tyndale-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 18

Tue Dec 4 02:00:10 MST 2012

nope.  this is coded to work like so at the moment.  but it it's easy to
change.  thanks for raising it.
On 4 Dec 2012 09:42, "David Instone-Brewer" <davidinstonebrewer at gmail.com>
wrote:

>  Won't these kinds of things get fixed by updates of Windows 8 and JQuery?
> I had a look at a friend's WIndow 8 tablet yesterday for the first time.
> Cool.
> Makes my XP Tablet look clunky.
> It is very new, and was probably brought out in a hurry in time for
> CHristmas.
>
> David IB
>
>
> At 21:13 03/12/2012, John Hutton wrote:
>
> Chris -
>
> I raised an issue (#424) against the two column improvement.
>
> Thanks, John
>
> Sent from my Windows Surface RT...
>
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>    1. Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT - Win8" (John Hutton)
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> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:58:31 +0000
> From: John Hutton <john.f.hutton at gmail.com >
> To: " tyndale-devel at crosswire.org" < tyndale-devel at crosswire.org>
> Subject: [tyndale-devel] Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT - Win8"
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> Hi All -
>
> Just trying to get back to doing some work on the program and thought I
> would try to do a early look at how STEPs performs on a Win8 RT Tablet.
>
> I?m afraid I could not do much checking.
>
> The initial links to the documentation appear to be missing (gave me
> errors).
>
> Under the windows8 RT OS, none of the gui interactions work correctly.
> When I click on a translation, instead of a pulldown I get a text entry
> field.  When I click on the ?view? or ?tools?, it only pops up the menu
> while I?m touching the button, but will not pop it up so I can make a
> selection.  Bible verse selection is also a ?type? only field (although it
> seems to have a selectable popup).
>
> This does seem to work with a mouse on the tablet, so it may be simply some
> high level changes that are needed to work with the ?touch? interface.
>
> I also tried this on my Windows Phone 7.5 (where it would be very useful to
> me as well), with limited success.  Even the single column layout doesn?t
> seem to fit well on the screen (popups show up off screen).
>
> Two other general comments:
>
> In two screen mode, could each side keep track of the type of info it is
> looking at?  The most common way I would use the tool would be to have a
> bible translation on the left and a commentary on the right.  I found that
> both columns assume the ?last? selection, so if I want to change bibles and
> commentaries after each other it takes more clicks.  I could, however, see
> use models for the current method, so this many only be a personal style
> thing.
>
> Secondly, I would love to be able to have the second column be an editor
> where I could record things like sermon notes.  Is there anything like that
> in the plan?
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
>
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> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:21:21 +0000
> From: Chris Burrell <chris at burrell.me.uk>
> To: Tyndale STEP developer mailing list < tyndale-devel at crosswire.org>
> Subject: Re: [tyndale-devel] Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT -
>         Win8"
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> Hi John
>
> Thanks for all those comments. As you'll have seen we haven't targetted
> Windows Surfaces yet. This is in the pipeline when we start targetting
> mobile devices. In particular, all the autocompletes will be likely
> transformed into normal dropdowns to harness the native OS features.
>
> In terms of the comments about the bibles/commentaries selection. Do you
> mean that each column should remember its own selection? If so, I think
> that is a sensible improvement. Could I ask you to raise this in our JIRA
> instance:
> https://stepweb.atlassian.net/secure/TaskBoard.jspa?type=TB&selectedProjectId=10040&selectedBoardId=11750&start=0under
> the version 1.1
>
> On the final note, about capturing a personal commentary, etc. Yes we have
> plans for this, but don't know which form this will take yet. Probably a
> number of forms including being able to tie your comments to particular
> verses, passages, etc. As well as a social aspect, e.g. sharing comments
> with a  facebook group, google circles, or your small group at church.
>
> Thanks!
> Chris
>
>
>
> On 23 November 2012 23:58, John Hutton <john.f.hutton at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hi All -
> >
> > Just trying to get back to doing some work on the program and thought I
> > would try to do a early look at how STEPs performs on a Win8 RT Tablet.
> >
> > I?m afraid I could not do much checking.
> >
> > The initial links to the documentation appear to be missing (gave me
> > errors).
> >
> > Under the windows8 RT OS, none of the gui interactions work correctly.
> > When I click on a translation, instead of a pulldown I get a text entry
> > field.  When I click on the ?view? or ?tools?, it only pops up the menu
> > while I?m touching the button, but will not pop it up so I can make a
> > selection.  Bible verse selection is also a ?type? only field (although
> it
> > seems to have a selectable popup).
> >
> > This does seem to work with a mouse on the tablet, so it may be simply
> > some high level changes that are needed to work with the ?touch?
> interface.
> >
> > I also tried this on my Windows Phone 7.5 (where it would be very useful
> > to me as well), with limited success.  Even the single column layout
> > doesn?t seem to fit well on the screen (popups show up off screen).
> >
> > Two other general comments:
> >
> > In two screen mode, could each side keep track of the type of info it is
> > looking at?  The most common way I would use the tool would be to have a
> > bible translation on the left and a commentary on the right.  I found
> that
> > both columns assume the ?last? selection, so if I want to change bibles
> and
> > commentaries after each other it takes more clicks.  I could, however,
> see
> > use models for the current method, so this many only be a personal style
> > thing.
> >
> > Secondly, I would love to be able to have the second column be an editor
> > where I could record things like sermon notes.  Is there anything like
> that
> > in the plan?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John
> >
> > Sent from Windows Mail
> >
> >
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