[tyndale-devel] tyndale-devel Digest, Vol 3, Issue 18

Tue Dec 4 00:07:16 MST 2012

Won't these kinds of things get fixed by updates of Windows 8 and JQuery?
I had a look at a friend's WIndow 8 tablet yesterday for the first time. Cool.
Makes my XP Tablet look clunky.
It is very new, and was probably brought out in a hurry in time for CHristmas.

David IB

At 21:13 03/12/2012, John Hutton wrote:
>Chris -
>
>I raised an issue (#424) against the two column improvement.
>
>Thanks, John
>
>Sent from my Windows Surface RT...
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>    1. Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT - Win8" (John Hutton)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:58:31 +0000
>From: John Hutton <<mailto:john.f.hutton at gmail.com>john.f.hutton at gmail.com>
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>Subject: [tyndale-devel] Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT - Win8"
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>Hi All -
>
>Just trying to get back to doing some work on the program and thought I
>would try to do a early look at how STEPs performs on a Win8 RT Tablet.
>
>I?m afraid I could not do much checking.
>
>The initial links to the documentation appear to be missing (gave me
>errors).
>
>Under the windows8 RT OS, none of the gui interactions work correctly.
>When I click on a translation, instead of a pulldown I get a text entry
>field.  When I click on the ?view? or ?tools?, it only pops up the menu
>while I?m touching the button, but will not pop it up so I can make a
>selection.  Bible verse selection is also a ?type? only field (although it
>seems to have a selectable popup).
>
>This does seem to work with a mouse on the tablet, so it may be simply some
>high level changes that are needed to work with the ?touch? interface.
>
>I also tried this on my Windows Phone 7.5 (where it would be very useful to
>me as well), with limited success.  Even the single column layout doesn?t
>seem to fit well on the screen (popups show up off screen).
>
>Two other general comments:
>
>In two screen mode, could each side keep track of the type of info it is
>looking at?  The most common way I would use the tool would be to have a
>bible translation on the left and a commentary on the right.  I found that
>both columns assume the ?last? selection, so if I want to change bibles and
>commentaries after each other it takes more clicks.  I could, however, see
>use models for the current method, so this many only be a personal style
>thing.
>
>Secondly, I would love to be able to have the second column be an editor
>where I could record things like sermon notes.  Is there anything like that
>in the plan?
>
>Thanks!
>
>John
>
>Sent from Windows Mail
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>From: Chris Burrell <<mailto:chris at burrell.me.uk>chris at burrell.me.uk>
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>Subject: Re: [tyndale-devel] Initial Look in "Windows Surface RT -
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>Hi John
>
>Thanks for all those comments. As you'll have seen we haven't targetted
>Windows Surfaces yet. This is in the pipeline when we start targetting
>mobile devices. In particular, all the autocompletes will be likely
>transformed into normal dropdowns to harness the native OS features.
>
>In terms of the comments about the bibles/commentaries selection. Do you
>mean that each column should remember its own selection? If so, I think
>that is a sensible improvement. Could I ask you to raise this in our JIRA
>instance:
><https://stepweb.atlassian.net/secure/TaskBoard.jspa?type=TB&selectedProjectId=10040&selectedBoardId=11750&start=0under>https://stepweb.atlassian.net/secure/TaskBoard.jspa?type=TB&selectedProjectId=10040&selectedBoardId=11750&start=0under
>the version 1.1
>
>On the final note, about capturing a personal commentary, etc. Yes we have
>plans for this, but don't know which form this will take yet. Probably a
>number of forms including being able to tie your comments to particular
>verses, passages, etc. As well as a social aspect, e.g. sharing comments
>with a  facebook group, google circles, or your small group at church.
>
>Thanks!
>Chris
>
>
>
>On 23 November 2012 23:58, John Hutton 
><<mailto:john.f.hutton at gmail.com>john.f.hutton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All -
> >
> > Just trying to get back to doing some work on the program and thought I
> > would try to do a early look at how STEPs performs on a Win8 RT Tablet.
> >
> > I?m afraid I could not do much checking.
> >
> > The initial links to the documentation appear to be missing (gave me
> > errors).
> >
> > Under the windows8 RT OS, none of the gui interactions work correctly.
> > When I click on a translation, instead of a pulldown I get a text entry
> > field.  When I click on the ?view? or ?tools?, it only pops up the menu
> > while I?m touching the button, but will not pop it up so I can make a
> > selection.  Bible verse selection is also a ?type? only field (although it
> > seems to have a selectable popup).
> >
> > This does seem to work with a mouse on the tablet, so it may be simply
> > some high level changes that are needed to work with the ?touch? interface.
> >
> > I also tried this on my Windows Phone 7.5 (where it would be very useful
> > to me as well), with limited success.  Even the single column layout
> > doesn?t seem to fit well on the screen (popups show up off screen).
> >
> > Two other general comments:
> >
> > In two screen mode, could each side keep track of the type of info it is
> > looking at?  The most common way I would use the tool would be to have a
> > bible translation on the left and a commentary on the right.  I found that
> > both columns assume the ?last? selection, so if I want to change bibles and
> > commentaries after each other it takes more clicks.  I could, however, see
> > use models for the current method, so this many only be a personal style
> > thing.
> >
> > Secondly, I would love to be able to have the second column be an editor
> > where I could record things like sermon notes.  Is there anything like that
> > in the plan?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John
> >
> > Sent from Windows Mail
> >
> >
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