[sword-devel] Fw: The Abbreviation key in Config files

[David Haslam]

Thanks Troy,

Then perhaps you can explain why this happens (not just once, but several times)?

- I started a thread in sword-devel.
- As a member of this list I should immediately receive a copy of my own email.
- I didn't.

Best regards,

David

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On Thursday, February 20th, 2025 at 4:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe777 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David. I don't think it's the CrossWire server. I get your email and some people get your emails. I believe it is probably mail servers who ban CrossWire or protonmail or some other aspect of the mail route you use. If any user gets your mail then CrossWire accepted it and forwarded it to the recipients. I am sorry for the trouble.
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 17:09 David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Troy,
>>
>> One of the reasons I began use my Proton Mail account for the various CrossWire mailing lists was because the CrossWire mail server was dumping everything from any btinternet.com address into the SPAM dump!
>>
>> I think the server setup needs a thorough vetting to stop it rubbishing genuine participants' email messages!
>>
>> How is it that it's always me that hits these problems?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 20th, 2025 at 3:41 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <karl at kleinpaste.org> wrote:
>>
>>> David Haslam [<dfhdfh at protonmail.com>](mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My initial message in this thread was sent to sword-devel.
>>>>> Other than Michael & Karl, did anyone else receive it?
>>>
>>> For reasons I don't care to guess, I haven't seen David's emails in sword-devel in a very long time -- years. I see his comments only in quoted replies by others. I think something's spam filter is overworked.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 18th, 2025 at 8:49 PM, Michael Johnson [<kahunapule at eBible.org>](mailto:kahunapule at eBible.org) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got this, but I'm in time triage mode, and this is not an issue that I can reasonably fix. Indeed, if anything, I should keep things as they are so that front end designers don't get the idea that version abbreviations are unique to just one module. Even being unique to a language is iffy if the module has different sources. I can't fix bad front end design.
>>>
>>> It is not "bad front end design" to say that when the user asks for KJV, he should get KJV, not an nth level derivative instance from a tertiary source.
>>> Sword Project apps have one "native" KJV. If the user doesn't want to install that, instead installs another, and wants to refer to that using a convenient abbreviation as KJV, that's fine. But whenever the module whose .conf says "[KJV]" is installed, the other with an abbreviation loses being distinguished by the name "KJV".
>>> Since modules' native names don't conflict by definition (i.e. [Name] must be unique across mods.d/*.conf¹), then nothing else can advertise itself as the (real, for Sword Project purposes) KJV.
>>> Xiphos' abbreviation support is not nearly as good as it needs to be. For starters, it needs conflict resolution, and that begins with tossing away abbreviations that collide with any installed module's native [Name].
>>>
>>> And what to do when 2+ modules have the same Abbreviation=?
>>>
>>> --karl
>>>
>>> ¹ Verify with grep '^\[' .sword/mods.d/*.conf | cut -f2 -d: | sort | uniq -c | grep -v ' 1 '
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