<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Thanks Troy,</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Then perhaps you can explain why this happens (not just once, but several times)?</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><ol data-editing-info="{"orderedStyleType":1,"unorderedStyleType":1}" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" data-listchain="__List_Chain_13"><li style="list-style-type: "1. ";">I started a thread in sword-devel.</li><li style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; list-style-type: "2. ";">As a member of this list I should immediately receive a copy of my own email.</li><li style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; list-style-type: "3. ";">I didn't.</li></ol></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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On Thursday, February 20th, 2025 at 4:53 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe777@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Hi David. I don't think it's the CrossWire server. I get your email and some people get your emails. I believe it is probably mail servers who ban CrossWire or protonmail or some other aspect of the mail route you use. If any user gets your mail then CrossWire accepted it and forwarded it to the recipients. I am sorry for the trouble.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 17:09 David Haslam <<a href="mailto:dfhdfh@protonmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">dfhdfh@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Hi Troy,<br><br>One of the reasons I began use my Proton Mail account for the various CrossWire mailing lists was because the CrossWire mail server was dumping everything from any <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="http://btinternet.com">btinternet.com</a> address into the SPAM dump!<br><br>I think the server setup needs a thorough vetting to stop it rubbishing genuine participants' email messages!<br><br><i>How is it that it's always me that hits these problems?</i></div><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div>
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On Thursday, February 20th, 2025 at 3:41 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank" href="mailto:karl@kleinpaste.org">karl@kleinpaste.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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My initial message in this thread was sent to <b>sword-devel</b>.<br>
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For reasons I don't care to guess, I haven't seen David's emails
in sword-devel in a very long time -- years. I see his comments
only in quoted replies by others. I think something's spam filter
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On Tuesday, February 18th, 2025 at 8:49 PM, Michael Johnson
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<blockquote type="cite">I got this, but
I'm in time triage mode, and this is not an issue that I can
reasonably fix. Indeed, if anything, I should keep things as
they are so that front end designers don't get the idea that
version abbreviations are unique to just one module. Even
being unique to a language is iffy if the module has different
sources. I can't fix bad front end design.</blockquote>
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<font face="FreeSerif">It is not "bad front end design" to say that
when the user asks for KJV, he should get KJV, not an <i>n</i>th
level derivative instance from a tertiary source.<br>
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Sword Project apps have one "native" KJV. If the user doesn't want
to install that, instead installs another, and wants to refer to
that using a convenient abbreviation as KJV, that's fine. But
whenever the module whose .conf says "[KJV]" is installed, the
other with an abbreviation loses being distinguished by the name
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Since modules' native names don't conflict by definition (i.e.
[Name] must be unique across mods.d/*.conf¹), then nothing else
can advertise itself as the (real, for Sword Project purposes)
KJV.<br>
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Xiphos' abbreviation support is not nearly as good as it needs to
be. F</font><font face="FreeSerif">or starters, i</font><font face="FreeSerif">t needs conflict resolution, and that begins with
tossing away abbreviations that collide with any installed
module's native [Name].<br>
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And what to do when 2+ modules have the same Abbreviation=?<br>
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¹ Verify with </font><font face="monospace">grep '^\['
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