[sword-devel] English transliteration of Greek or Hebrew words

Sun May 16 16:22:43 EDT 2021

As a side note, Apple has removed such functionality from its devices since some years ago: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-discontinues-3d-touch-iphone-11-replaces-with-haptic-touch-2019-9
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From: sword-devel <sword-devel-bounces at crosswire.org> on behalf of Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2021 2:26:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] English transliteration of Greek or Hebrew words

Good idea regarding the pressure-sensitive touch reaction :)

When doing a quick search I found this JavaScript library: https://pressurejs.com

I quickly tested it on my Android tablet and it seems to work well! Maybe I'll make use of this in the future.

Tobias

On 5/16/21 6:44 PM, Michael H wrote:
Tobias, (all)

I don't do mobile development, so if this is beyond the realm of easy implementation... ignore it.

The limitation of android apps in this area has always been lack of pointer... which turns into mistaps (mostly caused by fingers 3x th size of the target). I'd like to see pressure sensitive touch which would work like the 'hover' functionality in Bibletime... a light touch would pop out a box with essential part of the definition, and a more firm touch then opens the full definition either in the main window or a sidebar like area. It's not exactly like the hover in BT, but touch sensitivity enabled provides a pretty close functionality. Again, I know most androids now have pressure sensitivity built in... but I don't know if it's easily accessible as just a tap.

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 10:30 AM Tobias Klein <contact at tklein.info<mailto:contact at tklein.info>> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

I am still planning to develop that interlinear functionality that I wrote about in February, I have not started yet ... but will soon.

The interlinear visualization used by BibleHub is actually nice! I could imagine to do something similar in Ezra Bible App.

I am currently not targeting mobile use with Ezra, but certainly tablets (Windows and Android) and the user interface is also touch-based. In the future we may see an iPad version as well.

You already find a strongs dictionary functionality in Ezra, similar to what other frontends are doing, with the typical mouse-over strongs-word / dictionary update. But that only works on the desktop due to the mouseover limitation.

Focussing more on being touch-friendly is one of my goals for new functionality in Ezra. In fact, for me personally my Android tablet has become the primary device for this software ... at least for casual study.

I'd also be curious to see screenshots of your work!

I'll be keeping you posted whenever I have something ready to try. I am personally not a Greek/Hebrew expert, but nevertheless I enjoy some tool-based original language study. I'd be happy about getting feedback from users like you in the future!

Blessings,
Tobias

On 5/15/21 10:23 AM, Jeff Becker wrote:

Tobias (et al),

I’ve been developing and using (for my own personal edification) a Greek/Hebrew reader that responds to touch/click with English translation, Strong’s numbers (with links) and a parsing code (gender, number, case, person, etc.)

I’ve decided to either find something that meets my growing needs or make it. But to do so requires data.  The current version is based upon a reformatting of a free interlinear using C#, JavaScript, HTML5 and T-SQL (MSSQL).

If you’re working on one I’d like to discuss joining our efforts if our goals are compatible.  Otherwise, I’m looking at the possibility of using the resources available through the SWORD project as a basis for my efforts.

My goals are (in no particular order):

-          An easy to use phone, tablet and desktop app (already in current version)

-          Touch/click responses by displaying various information (lexicography, parsing) (already in current version)

-          Ability to select various reading plans such as canonical order, Daniel Wallace’s One Year reading plan, chronological based on writing (already in current version)

-          Stored bookmarks (client and server storage shared across individual user’s computers) (already in current version)

-          Derived words in common language such as transliterations as a memory reinforcement tactic (eg. ‘geo’ – ‘graphy’);

-          Ability to substitute other languages for English translations / transliterations;

I can’t post a link here because I haven’t received permission or reuse the source material (BibleHub’s Greek-English and Hebrew-English Interlinear).  I am currently the only person using it.  I’ve done so to avoid any ethical or legal infringement on the source material.

If you or anyone else reading this are interested in working together I’d be happy to share my relevant code and experience.

Jeff Becker

From: sword-devel [mailto:sword-devel-bounces at crosswire.org] On Behalf Of Tobias Klein
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:44 AM
To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
Subject: [sword-devel] English transliteration of Greek or Hebrew words

Hi,

I am planning an interlinear view component for Ezra Project and as part of that I would like to show English transliterations of Greek or Hebrew words.

I found these JavaScript/TypeScript based packages, which could be useful:
https://github.com/charlesLoder/greek-transliteration

https://github.com/charlesLoder/hebrew-transliteration

Do you know of any other solutions out there?

Best regards,
Tobias

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