[sword-devel] Firefox to remove support for the FTP protocol | ZDNet

[Michael Johnson]

On 3/20/20 11:32 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Yes, we could do that, but...
>
> that's the comment I tried to make earlier.  FTP (and SFTP and WebDAV)
> doesn't require any meta information-- it dynamically provides this for
> you from looking at the files in your filesystem.
>
> If we require each of our repositories to setup a special file before
> they can be used by our applications, we have at least 2 regressions:
>
> 1) Any working SWORD library is not, by definition a valid repository
> for install.  i.e., 3rd parties or normal users have work now to make
> their installed SWORD library available for other to install from.

Unless we upgrade the Sword library to automatically index the current installation, refreshing that index when appropriate.

> 2) We are now trying to delivery information about a filesystem that we
> get dynamically from file transfer protocols (FTP, SFTP, WebDAV) and
> there is a huge potential for inconsistencies between what is in our
> static metadata file and what is actually on the filesystem.

Unless we upgrade our Sword library to automatically index the current installation, and when appropriate, the repository.

FTP is dying. Let it go.


>
> It would be certainly be an improvement though when parsing folder and
> file information over HTML (and not using WebDav).
>
> Troy
>
>  
>
> On 3/20/20 2:13 PM, Michael Johnson wrote:
>> Wouldn't it make more sense, going forward, to make a directory file in a standard (for us) format on each repository?
>>
>> On 3/20/20 9:40 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> Right, the issue is that our HTTP support is implemented as an attempt to parse Apache directory listing HTML output.  It almost certainly won't work with other web servers and Apache has already changed their output on us at least once.
>>>
>>> Nick (PocketSword) graciously provided the original support when he was having trouble with FTP access over iOS.
>>>
>>> Bishop uses SWORD's FTP support over iOS with no issues that I've had.
>>>
>>> It could have been a network provider filtering out FTP traffic when Nic was doing development.  Not sure.
>>>
>>> This is one real world advantage to having another protocol available: if network providers babysit their users and try to filter their data for them (which would tick me off if my provider did that).
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/20/20 12:31 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM Michael Johnson <Michael at ebible.org <mailto:Michael at ebible.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     On 3/20/20 7:44 AM, Greg Hellings wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     > ✔ https://www.crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/
>>>>     > ✔ http://ftp.bible.org/
>>>>     > ✗ http://ftp.xiphos.org/
>>>>     > ✗ http://ftp.ibt.org.ru/
>>>>     > ✗ https://ftp.ebible.org/
>>>>     Please note that https://ebible.org/sword/ works. You should use ftp.ebible.org <http://ftp.ebible.org> when using ftp, and just plain ebible.org <http://ebible.org> when using http or https.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, there it is. I missed that entry in the wiki page. Indeed.
>>>>
>>>> --Greg
>>>>
>>>>
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