[sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
Cyrille
lafricain79 at gmail.com
Fri Nov 15 12:03:47 EST 2019
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Le 15/11/2019 à 11:56, Michael H a écrit :
> Yes, the modules are all updated. Bibletime is up to date, but that
> means the last version provided by 18.04LTS upstream, and is not
> current to the development stream.
>
> I mentioned the KJVA module to Cyrille to point out that there is a
> crosswire module which contains all of the apocryphal books, which is
> an important consideration for him.
>
> I maintain that the presence of the "OSISqToTick=false" line item in
> the KJVA module, but not the KJV nor engKJV1769eb modules are the
> reason for the quotes appearing in some but not all modules. However,
> I'm out of my depth here, because this gets into what does each front
> end do with the conf file.
>
> However, It's my best interpretation of the sword spec and
> communication on this subject that all KJV modules which contain red
> letter encoding would best be represented with the
> configuration OSISqToTick=false in their respective conf files.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:35 AM David Haslam <dfhdfh at protonmail.com
> <mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> KJV version 2.9 and KJVA version 3.0.1 should behave the same.
>
> KJVA is now made using the osis2mod augment switch -a to add the
> DC books to the module first made from the KJV source XML file.
>
> Are you viewing these latest module releases?
>
> David
>
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> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 16:17, Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com
> <mailto:cmahte at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I see them in bibletime 2.11.3 for Linux (Ubuntu 18.04LTS) built
>> on Sword 1.7.3. This is the default edition that comes in the
>> apps provided by the current stable Ubuntu edition.
>>
>> In a 3 column view with the modules listed, engKJV1769eb, KJV,
>> and KJVA; only the KJVA displays silent transitions.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM David Haslam
>> <dfhdfh at protonmail.com <mailto:dfhdfh at protonmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> The CrossWire KJV module should not and does not display
>> quotation marks in either Xiphos or PocketSword & probably
>> all SWORD based front-end apps.
>>
>> If you see quotation marks at Words of Jesus transitions,
>> might this be a failure of some apps not
>> correctly implementing the attribute marker=“” in
>> rendering the OSIS q element?
>>
>> Which apps have such an issue?
>>
>> David
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 15:49, Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cmahte at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> I suspect starting from the KJVA module is the correct
>>> approach for you Cyrille. The engKJV1769eb module is present
>>> to make the text available in the other formats (web
>>> browser, epub, kindle formats.) It is not intended to be a
>>> source text. However, the conversion to all these formats
>>> reprocesses the text and introduces some quirks.
>>>
>>> The Crosswire KJV module is not identical to the
>>> engKJV1769eb module.
>>>
>>> 1. The ebible module does not contain Chapter titles, while
>>> the KJV and KJVA modules do.
>>> 2. The ebible module has more white space between features
>>> (pilcrows have trailing spaces, Words of Jesus transitions
>>> introduce an extra space, etc.) These are not present in the
>>> KJV and KJVA modules.
>>> 3. Both the ebible and KJV module display quotation marks
>>> where the Words of Jesus transitions occur. This is not
>>> present in the source text, but is apparently a quirk of
>>> OSIS (not sure if it's in the OSIS, or the conf file.)
>>> However, the KJVA module does NOT contain these quotations
>>> which is more appropriate. Yet it lists the same source as
>>> the KJV module.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:19 AM Cyrille
>>> <lafricain79 at gmail.com <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 09:08, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>> AFAIK, The OSIS XML files that eBible.org uses for the
>>>> engKJV1769eb module are not those that either I or DM
>>>> used for the CrossWire KJV & KJVA modules.
>>> I have the feeling again that we are wasting a mad
>>> energy by the dispersion of sources and parallel works.
>>> Two "identical" modules developed from two sources...
>>>>
>>>> I’ve really not looked in detail at how Michael
>>>> Johnson maintains his modules with Haiola.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 13:57, Cyrille
>>>> <lafricain79 at gmail.com <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Peter,
>>>>> I look in the conf file:
>>>>> TextSource=bf.org <http://bf.org>, eBible.org...
>>>>> eBible.org is ok
>>>>> And eBible.org is working, but how to do if we want to
>>>>> work on it? At the same time I discover that ebible is
>>>>> an excellent resource that stores bibles in usfm and
>>>>> osis formats.
>>>>> David, is your file different from ebible?
>>>>> Maybe a link to the ebible.org <http://ebible.org> (I
>>>>> could only download the usfm file) on wiki would be
>>>>> useful.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 15/11/2019 à 05:27, David Haslam a écrit :
>>>>>> Strictly speaking, it’s maintained by DM Smith
>>>>>> - though I did some significant work on the source
>>>>>> text in 2016 in collaboration with DM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still keep such KJV files on my PC too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wiki includes a roadmap for further potential
>>>>>> enhancements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:17, Peter Von Kaehne
>>>>>> <refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not on my computer, but I think the link to the
>>>>>>> source text is both in the conf file and accessible
>>>>>>> via the WIki.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 03:26 Uhr
>>>>>>> *Von:* "Cyrille" <lafricain79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *An:* "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum"
>>>>>>> <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>>>>>> <mailto:sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>>>>>> *Betreff:* [sword-devel] KJV with strong numbers
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I red that the KJV with strong's numbers is a
>>>>>>> crosswire project
>>>>>>> <http://www.crosswire.org/sword/kjv2003/>, I'm just
>>>>>>> looking for where can I found the osis source text
>>>>>>> of this module?
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