[sword-devel] Sword front-ends, the clipboard and social media

Sun May 5 13:27:42 MST 2019

No - although a front-end would include the UI option to “Copy Special”,
IMHO, the right place for the special filter would be the back-end engine.

It’s the back-end that “knows” which object is a verse tag,
as opposed to verse text that just happens to contain some digits.
Eg. The integer 144,000 in Revelation 7:4 for some translations.

No front-end developer is obliged to make use of the suggested filter.
But it gives them a design choice that can be exploited to advantage in the described usage case.

In Xiphos, for example, the dialogue would simply require an extra tick box with (say) a mouseover tooltip.

 Best regards,

David

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On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 21:08, refdoc at gmx.net <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:

> I think the main problem is that there is a whole huge worlds out there of weird and wonderful restrictions. Some blogging platforms accept wiki mark up, others markdown yet others restricted html, etc.
>
> I do not think the engine is the place other than for well defined standardised output formats, as much of the rest ephemeral. But front-ends maybe can do more?
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Sword front-ends, the clipboard and social media
> From: David Haslam
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> CC:
>
>> Jack,
>>
>> I think you’ve missed the main point too.
>>
>> Facebook edit boxes for posts, comments and replies sees everything pasted as plain vanilla text.
>> Text styles are simply squished.
>>
>> However, being a global platform, it supports the whole Unicode character set.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 20:14, Jaak Ristioja <jaak at ristioja.ee> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd suggest using CSS with custom element attributes instead, for example:
>>>
>>> <html><head>
>>> <title>Hallelujah! :)</title>
>>> <style>
>>> span::before {
>>> content: attr(verse-id);
>>> vertical-align: super;
>>> font-size: 50%;
>>> margin: 0 0.4em 0 0;
>>> }
>>> </style>
>>> </head>
>>> <body>
>>> <span verse-id='12'>Christ</span>
>>> <span verse-id='13'>is</span>
>>> <span verse-id='14'>risen!</span>
>>> </body>
>>> </html>
>>>
>>> Online example: https://jsfiddle.net/23z5n9dc/
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> J
>>>
>>> On 05.05.19 18:58, David Haslam wrote:
>>>> When pasting a Bible passage from the clipboard to Social media, text styles are usually squished.
>>>>
>>>> This often means that superscripted verse tags just become ordinary numbers.
>>>> Some front-ends even leave no space between the verse tag and the start of verse text.
>>>> The result in social media is a tad ugly.
>>>>
>>>> Surely we could do better?
>>>>
>>>> One bright idea implemented externally by one of our members is simple enough for us to consider adding as a new filter in the SWORD API.
>>>>
>>>> Convert verse number digits to Unicode superscript digits, ⁰¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹
>>>>
>>>> NB. These special 10 characters are not in a continuous block.
>>>>
>>>> How front-ends might include the filter such that copying a passage to the clipboard would automatically make use of these special characters is yet to be determined, but if the idea is not yet discussed, we’ll not make any progress.
>>>>
>>>> Aside: I made my own TextPipe filter to convert digits to these special characters.
>>>> I included a restriction to avoid converting chapter numbers.
>>>> I did not yet consider what to do about digits that are part of verse text (such as 144,000).
>>>>
>>>> Even so, how do software developers feel about the concept ?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
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>>>>
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