[sword-devel] CCEL, ThML - volunteers?

[Greg Hellings]

John,

I also struggled with this bringing material over from Logos. There was a
proposal, once upon a time, to allow this structure to be represented in a
Gen Book. It can do what we both need.

However, this never materialized in code. It would still be a great idea,
since it's exactly how many modern commentaries operate. However, since
those aren't usually available to Sword due to copyright issues, there
isn't much demand for it.

--Greg

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 16:06 Dudeck, John <John.Dudeck at sim.org wrote:

> Troy,
>
> The problem is not parsing references. I have that figured out long ago,
> and converting from Logos to Sword, etc.
>
> The problem is that when you have a commentary with, for example a
> milestone for Gen 1:1-31 with some introductory material, followed by a
> sub-heading with a milestone for Gen 1:1-13, then followed by verse
> commentaries for Gen 1:1-5, then Gen 1:6-8, then Gen 1:9-13. When compiling
> with osis2mod, it doesn't quite know what to do with the nested ranges, and
> stuff does not display properly.
>
> John
>
> >
> > Hi John,
> > Do you have an example?  Our parser handles some pretty crazy verse
> references.  You can
> > give it a try here:
> >
> > http://crosswire.org/study/examples/parsevs.jsp
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/15/18 10:35 AM, Dudeck, John wrote:
> > The main problem with commentaries is getting the annotateRef attribute
> right without
> > manual intervention. Logos supports nested levels of reference, eg.
> book-level,
> > chapter-level, verse-level, and verse ranges (that can span mutiple
> chapters). As far as I
> > can tell, osis2mod gets terribly confused with nested ranges.
> >
> > Generally speaking, black box converters are pretty much a lost cause. I
> have used a .conf
> > file approach where variable stuff can be configured, for example how to
> map class and
> > style attributes to the limited rendering capabilities of Sword. And I
> have separate scripts
> > for genbooks, bibles, commentaries, and dictionaries/lexicons.
> >
> > John
> >
> > > Any time your list of exceptional conditions contains more text than
> the
> > > conversion itself, you have to start questioning whether 'automation'
> is
> > > even possible.
> > >
> > > I spent time developing similar scripts (something like wordxml ->
> > > USFM) for single use cases.  Doing the conversion was usually about
> > > 10 steps, but  then dealing with the exceptions (both before and after
> > > the conversion) took 100+ steps. Without automation, the 10 steps
> > > was good enough. but not keeping a human involved, all the human
> > > decisions had to be mapped.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM Greg Hellings <
> greg.hellings at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:35 AM Dudeck, John <John.Dudeck at sim.org>
> wrote:
> > > I am developing a set of Perl scripts that convert Logos XML to OSIS
> for
> > > commentaries. It has proven to be a non-trivial exercise.
> > >
> > > I undertook a similar exercise over a decade ago as part of an
> internship. It was a beast
> > of
> > > a task and one that was never fully completed.
> > >
> > > --Greg
>
> John Dudeck
> Programmer at Editions Cle                             Lyon, France
> john.dudeck at sim.org                            john at editionscle.com
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>  research, would it?" -- Albert Einstein
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