[sword-devel] Introductory material in OSIS (osis2mod)

David Haslam dfhdfh at protonmail.com
Fri Jun 15 13:36:47 MST 2018


Hi John,

Search GitHub for the repository called and-bible.
If you have an account, you can add an issue therein.

Best regards,

David

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On 15 June 2018 9:19 PM, John Dudeck <john.dudeck at sim.org> wrote:

> Ok. I think I just realized where my problem lies.
>
> In Xiphos, the Introductory material is displaying the way you describe, which is what I want.
>
> But in AndBible, only the text that is withing the <chapter> tags is displaying.
>
> So I'm guessing this is a JSword or AndBible issue.
>
> Whom do we contact about this?
>
> John
>
>> I’ll see if I can explain from memory. I’m the most recent contributor to osis2mod.
>>
>> Below “first” means the first encountered. For a complete Bible it is as you’d think, but if there is
>> only one testament or an incomplete testament, first may not refer to Genesis or Matthew. Also,
>> if a book or chapter doesn’t start with chapter or verse 1, then first doesn’t refer to 1.
>>
>> BTW, Intro, Heading, and Title are treated as the same. The toggle for headings handles all
>> three the same. Initially the thought was that there were only titles and sub-titles.
>>
>> Bible Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the first
>> testament is gathered as the Bible intro. OSIS doesn’t require testament divisions, but these are
>> needed to identify a Bible intro.
>>
>> Testament Intro. Osis2mod doesn’t know how to properly handle this. Everything before the first
>> book is gathered as a testament intro. Everything after the last book of the Old Testament and
>> before the first book of the New Testament is gathered as the NT intro.
>>
>> Because osis2mod doesn’t know how to address Bible and Testament intro it is put in the first
>> location it knows is after that point. Practically, it becomes intro material in the first chapter.
>>
>> Book Intro. Everything inside the book tag before the first chapter tag is a Book intro. While it is
>> placed in chapter 0, verse 0 for the book, you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it
>> out.
>>
>> Chapter Intro. This is the most difficult. A chapter intro comes after the chapter tag and comes
>> before the tag for verse 1. But some can be an intro that goes with the chapter and some is
>> taken as the intro to a verse. Since it is hard to control where one ends and the next begins, the
>> wiki has carefully laid out how osis2mod distinguishes the two. Special treatment is needed for
>> canonical Psalm headings. That which goes with the chapter intro is put into verse 0 for that
>> chapter, but you never explicitly address 0. Osis2mod will figure it out as well. The rest is
>> prefixed to verse 1 with special markup that osis2mod adds.
>>
>> Verse intro (aka titles). This is everything between 2 verses after the last closing tag of the prior
>> verse and before the start verse tag. Often this contains no text but only structural tags.
>>
>> Many frontends do not show intro material but only material from verse 1 and following.
>> (Hopefully, I’m wrong.)
>>
>> If you make an uncompressed module and use the debug flag to show markers for verses you
>> can view the built data files in a readable format.
>>
>> If someone can explain to me how to address the intros using the SWORD engine, I’ll update
>> osis2mod to properly store them.
>>
>> The wiki can be improved. Feel free to make it read better.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> DM
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:11 PM, John Dudeck <john.dudeck at sim.org> wrote:
>>
>> Would somebody please clarify the documentation on the wiki page for osis2mod.exe for
>> "Handling of Introductions, Titles and Inter-Verse Material". I can't make heads nor tails out
>> of it.
>>
>> Specifically, how are we supposed to tag (in OSIS) the introductory material in a Bible?
>> The wiki page says that SWORD looks for module, testament, book and chapter
>> introductory material." In the Bibles I am working on, everything inside of chapter tags is
>> being displayed, but none of the stuff outside the chapter tags is being displayed.
>>
>> It says that "A module introduction should be place into testament 0, book 0, chapter 0,
>> verse 0. A testament introduction should be placed into testament 1 or 2, book 0, chapter
>> 0, verse 0." What does this mean? Where do you tag the testament number, the book
>> number, etc? This is not explained in the OSIS documentation, which only mentions book
>> abbreviations, and nothing about testaments.
>>
>> It says "See OSIS Bibles for best practices in marking up titles and introductions." But that
>> page says nothing at all about introductions.
>
> John Dudeck
> Programmer at Editions Cle                             Lyon, France
> john.dudeck at sim.org                            john at editionscle.com
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