[sword-devel] Mailing Lists

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Sun Jun 3 14:05:10 MST 2018

Hi David,

What form did you fill out?

To subscribe?  We have disabled mailman subscriptions by the user
because bots use that make our server send confirmation emails to 1000s
of uninterested users.  Not sure why anyone would want to do this beyond
make us look annoying.  But it happens.  The page tells you to send an
email to sword-support at crosswire.org to subscribe and should even give
you a prefilled email body.

If you filled out the form to sign in to edit your subscription, that
should work fine if you know your login id.  The mailman list sends your
password to you each month in a plaintext email so I don't think mailman
is worried about it being transmitted over http vs. https.  It's just a
subscribe choice and options.

Hope this clears things up a bit, even if you didn't get the answers you


On 06/03/2018 10:46 PM, David Troidl wrote:
> Hi,
> I was having an issue with Xiphos, so I clicked the link in the Help
> menu for Mailing List.  I put in the effort to fill out the form, and
> when I submitted it, I was told this method no longer worked, because
> of bots.
> Then I went to http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo, to see what
> could be done from there.  Under xiphos-user, I was taken to the same
> sign-up page.  Then I went to sword-devel, assuming I could sign in
> there and edit my list subscriptions.  When I clicked in the Address
> box, I got a message saying the page was insecure, and entering my
> login could compromise my information.
> Also, on the Mailing Lists page, it gave this address:
> mailmen at crosswire.org, if I was having trouble.  I sent an email
> there, and received two automated responses, from
> mailmen-bounces at crosswire.org, and mailmen-owner at crosswire.org.  Both
> of them said:
> Go to www.crosswire.org to find the appropriate person to contact or
> contact the sword-devel mailing list if you really do have a problem
> to contact us about. This list is inactive.
> Obviously, something is wrong with this picture.  What is the proper
> procedure, and how would an unsuspecting user find it out?
> Peace,
> David
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