[sword-devel] Catholic and Catholic2 versification

[David Haslam]

Troy wrote:
> 3) v11ns intend to be mapped.  The objective is to provide the ability to see any verse in one Bible and show that same portion (e.g., Jn.3.16, "For God so loved...") for the same work (e.g., The Gospel of John) in another Bible.  The above example in #2 of using V3 of a Psalm for two different purposes (= two different portion from the same work: 1) the beginning of the Psalm text just after the headers; 2) the third line into the Psalm text-- both labeled as V3 in two different Bibles using the same v11n) prohibits the objective to uniquely identify a portion of text and be able to map it distinctively to another Bible.

Is there anything in the developers' wiki about how we were planning to map v11ns ?
What's the current status of inter-v11n mapping?

Best regards,

David

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> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Catholic and Catholic2 versification
> Local Time: 9 January 2018 5:20 PM
> UTC Time: 9 January 2018 17:20
> From: scribe at crosswire.org
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> Yes, so, as Peter points out, Chris Little previously owned v11n.  Chris
> had all the right insights and attributes to manage this and we're now
> lacking in this area.
>
> These are important things for anyone owning responsibility for this to
> consider for v11n.
>
> You need an overall understanding of the objective and big picture for v11n.
>
> - Less is more.  If we can have less total v11n systems which
> reasonably represent all necessary Bibles, this is the target
> objective.  Every v11n is always likely a superset.  Having extra verses
> in a v11n system, not filled by an individual Bible is not a bad thing.
> It if gets too different, (i.e., why don't we just have 1 giant v11n
> with all known books and 999 chapters with 999 verses for each book?) we
> consider creating a new v11n to better represent another clusters of Bibles.
>
> - To answer the parenthetical question above in #1, each verse in a
> v11n system should uniquely identify the same portion (e.g., Jn.3.16,
> "For God so loved...") within a work (e.g., The Gospel of John).  As a
> example relevant to another thread on LXX, some LXX v11n systems place
> the Psalm headings as V1; sometimes even as V1 and V2, with the actual
> text of the Psalm marked as V3.  It would be unacceptable to use the
> same v11n system to have V3 beginning the Psalm text, with another Bible
> using V3 of that same v11n system to label the third line in the actual
> Psalm (relegating the headings to pre-verse material of V1)  Either are
> acceptable; both are not.  The reason for this is next in #3
>
> - v11ns intend to be mapped.  The objective is to provide the ability
> to see any verse in one Bible and show that same portion (e.g., Jn.3.16,
> "For God so loved...") for the same work (e.g., The Gospel of John) in
> another Bible.  The above example in #2 of using V3 of a Psalm for two
> different purposes (= two different portion from the same work: 1) the
> beginning of the Psalm text just after the headers; 2) the third line
> into the Psalm text-- both labeled as V3 in two different Bibles using
> the same v11n) prohibits the objective to uniquely identify a portion of
> text and be able to map it distinctively to another Bible.
>
> Chris had a clear understanding of these objectives and had invested a
> large amount of time researching v11n systems in general to make good
> decision where to cluster Bibles into the same v11n system and when to
> break off a cluster for a new v11n system.
>
> I hope this lends some guidance to anyone considering v11n authoring or
> mapping, and to someone who might wish to pick up the responsibility for
> this important task.
>
> Troy
>
> On 01/09/2018 06:43 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>
>> Le 09/01/2018 à 14:30, Matěj Cepl a écrit :
>>
>>> On 2018-01-09, 12:33 GMT, Cyrille wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe you can test with your language? It can be interesting
>>>> if you have a Catholic bible?
>>>> See my other thread about CzeB21. How can I test it?
>>>> Currently is it run whith Catholic?
>>>> I don't know how to test a non added v11n, but you can see the text of
>>>> your bible if the v11n Catholic match with your bible or not. And for
>>>> Esther how they manage it. For instance in my example I have often
>>>> chapter A B, C... In the new module I add this verses in the current 10
>>>> chapter of Esther.
>>>> Matěj
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