[sword-devel] Wiki writers - attention

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Mon Jan 8 08:51:09 MST 2018


Thanks all for this effort.  I woke up this morning delightfully
surprised.  Just a little background to what sparked this.

A year or so ago when we moved to a new hosting facility, we used the
opportunity to begin migrating from RHEL 6 to RHEL 7 (CentOS, really). 
We did this by encapsulating a current snapshot of the RHEL 6 server
into a VM and then proceeded to install 7 as the host OS, running 6 on
top as a guest.  We have been slowly migrating services from the 6 guest
to the 7 host, in the hopes of eventually retiring the guest.

The wiki is still running on the guest and has come up in discussion a
few times over the past couple weeks.  I have long lamented the lack of
concise and pertinent information in our wiki.  I imagine myself as a
new visitor to CrossWire and find the wiki difficult to perceive the
intent of which path I, as a new: core developer, module creator, or
user of the engine (thanks Tom, for enumerating these), should walk down
to get up to speed.  Each time I visit the wiki to find a link to send
to someone who has asked a question, or am searching for information
myself, I realize how much information is either wrong or rather, what
pearls are right are submerged deep in a sea of noise which a new
visitor will have no idea how to swim to find what we are trying to tell
them is important.  I guess conciseness, clear direction, and accuracy
are my main frustration.  As a developer, I want to read a little as
possible to get up to speed and when I don't know what is important, I
trust only the important information will be presented, as a courtesy to
me, to show value for my time.

DM and I are the ones doing the server migration of services.  I
mentioned my frustration regarding the wiki to DM and Peter yesterday,
pointing out the very first few lines, which I should understand as most
important, were entirely misleading or irrelevant, giving a very bad
impression.  I asked if maybe the migration of the wiki from guest to
host might be a good time to start fresh.  Waking up this morning, it
sounds like Peter ran with it-- which, given Peter's character to "just
do it," I should have expected.  I am grateful we have people who jump
in and get things done, and I am also grateful we have people, like
David, who have spent much of the their time curating many of the pages
on the wiki, even when he admittedly was not an expert in their
content.  I accept that it is due to lack of participation from core and
frontend developers on the wiki that it has become so unaccommodating
for their kind.

Let's please work together to make the wiki again useful for all those
involved... and direct and concise, and not be offended when the sea is
drained to reveal only the pearls.

All here are loved and appreciated.  Let's share in work together on this,

Troy


On 01/08/2018 08:06 AM, jhphx wrote:
> For those that may not know, there are auto utilities to check
> websites or lists of pages for broken links and then generate a nice
> report on the nature of the bad links. That report could even be
> posted, perhaps on its own page.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 1/8/2018 2:22 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>> Dead links are a perennial problem. 
>>
>> Thanks for the alert. 
>>
>> Best regards, David
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 09:18, L'Africain <lafricain79 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> About the wiki, the link to the perl script to convert imp to osis
>>> is dead. Le 08/01/2018 à 09:08, Peter von Kaehne a écrit : > On Mon,
>>> 2018-01-08 at 07:40 +0000, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> We are
>>> currently engaging in a bit of culling and pruning activity. >
>>> Project links: > > I am culling all Project pages on the wiki back
>>> to the bare minimum - > it is not useful to duplicate info and make
>>> new developers think that > the outdated info on our pages is all
>>> there is. > > Please help by keeping contact details etc up date -
>>> for your own > projects in particular (Project website, mailing
>>> lists, source, covered > platforms) > > Peter > >
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