[sword-devel] LXX v11n issues

[Troy A. Griffitts]

These v11ns are not in the sources because we are still researching. 
But since these have been double checked to printed editions, I highly
doubt whatever 'errors' you see are actually errors in the v11n, but
rather a bad source text.  I am sorry for speculating, but I know these
v11ns were checked and verified by a second individual against a printed
edition and also know there is a ton of low quality texts online which
claim to be things which they are not.  These are simply my suspicions
without having the time now to put in the research.  I hope you find a
way to check and confirm.

Troy



On 01/06/2018 12:06 PM, Cyrille wrote:
>
>
> Le 06/01/2018 à 18:36, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>
>> Dear Cyrille,
>>
>> I just did a brief diff between the canon_lxx.h and the
>> canon_lxx-super.h I sent you in my previous email, and the
>> differences don't look like anything useful.  I must be mistaken
>> about what this file is.  Have a read of the comments in the file I
>> send and those in the canon_lxx.h included in 1.8.0.  They are very
>> similar, but the *-super.h v11n includes this comment near the end of
>> the header:
>>
>> "This is not intended for critical editions that separately encode
>> variant traditions of Joshua, Judges, Tobit, etc. that are already
>> served by the Rahlfs versification system (q.v.)."
>>
>> I am not sure to what the "Rahlfs versification system (q.v.)"
>> refers, nor the /quod vide/ at the end of the reference.
>>
>> I could possibly refer to the analysis of Rahlfs in the LXX v11n
>> folder I send to you earlier, specifically here, but I am not sure:
>>
>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/canon_rahlfs.h
>>
> My question is why this v11n are not in the sources? And I compare the
> Rahlfs.h, it's not good... still a lot of issues. I ready to perform
> it. Please let me know the good way to help.
> But it clear for me that for the current source I have, it's not
> possible to use the current LXX v11n.
>>
>> But I do not see any accommodation for alternate traditions in
>> there.  I may need to go search old emails to dig up the discussions
>> on this.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/06/2018 09:36 AM, Cyrille wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 06/01/2018 à 17:16, Troy A. Griffitts a écrit :
>>>> Hi Cyrille,
>>>>
>>>> Just a few comments which I hope will clear up a few things.
>>>>
>>>> The sword-tools SVN repo needs to be checked out to your computer
>>>> before you can run the convert.sh for CCAT. The repo contains the
>>>> .jar file you asked about. You cannot just download the individual
>>>> convert.sh script.
>>>
>>> Ok It's clear. I need to clone it with hg? The user is this from the
>>> automatic email send? If it is this email I can't find it again :-\
>>>>
>>>> SWORD versifications are often a superset for multiple Bibles. The
>>>> SWORD engine provides a facility for frontends to easily skip empty
>>>> entries. Thus, when you discover that a chapter here or a chapter
>>>> there has too many verses, it is probably that way to support
>>>> another Bible which has more verses for that chapter.
>>>>
>>>> LXX v11n has been researched extensively by Chris and others. There
>>>> are many issues regarding the LXX which are not easily resolved,
>>>> e.g., Rahlfs providing two textual traditions of the same book in
>>>> parallel with different versifications. I h research for LXX in
>>>> general can be found here:
>>>>
>>>> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/lxx_v11ns/
>>>
>>> OK but what to do?? Is it possible to use the Rahlfs with osis2mod?
>>> Because Rahlfs is not the current one. I have the Rahlfs text. If I
>>> use the current LXX v11n with my text I will have really a lot of
>>> issues!
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>> On January 6, 2018 9:01:01 AM MST, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hello,
>>>>     Before to work on a new module for the LXX, I decided to verify the
>>>>     current LXX v11n. And what was my surprise discovering many errors!
>>>>     Please can you give me the list of the current modules using LXX v11n?
>>>>     I will propose a new with correction, some books give me worries, like
>>>>     Esther, which contains a versification in letter, I will make you a
>>>>     proposal once my verification is finished. I work with the A. Rahlfs
>>>>     (maybe the current LXX v11n was made with an other ?)
>>>>
>>>>     Best regards, Br Cyrille
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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