[sword-devel] Fwd: [LinuxUser] Any breakthroughs with Logos on Linux?

Thu Feb 8 18:42:18 MST 2018

I was pretty sure that Wycliffe or SIL was working on porting ParaTEXT so
that it ran on the Linux platform with Mono back in the day. At least I
think it was ParaText they were working with. They were being big
contributors to the Mono project at the time to support they work they were
doing.

--Greg

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Michael H <cmahte at gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anybody studied whether it is possible to link ParaTExt to sword?
> There's an unfilled need here for Translation teams working in windows
> hostile areas (Africa/SE Asia)... they use linux to access Paratext, and
> many of the resources are hard to get to link to the current verse being
> worked on. The preferred method is the commercial program Logos.  However,
> that program only runs in windows, and windows is not a viable OS in some
> places.
>
>
> Logos-Paratext syncing
> https://map.bloomfire.com/posts/1251509-scrolling-logos-
> with-paratext-registration-difficulties
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 6:14 AM, Fierbaugh, Stephen (TSC) <
> stephen_fierbaugh at tsco.org> wrote:
>
>> I believe this is actually the long term solution which is happening by
>> default.  PT8 is headed in that direction anyways.  As I understand it,
>> there's already an overlap in available popular resources.  Some of the
>> less popular resources may never end up in PT, though.
>>
>> Stephen
>> On 02/07/2018 10:39 PM, Brian Chapaitis wrote:
>>
>> So, what happens if we step "outside the box" for a solution?  I'm
>> thinking that the average translator whether expat or national coworker is
>> using Paratext for the core work engine in their translation project.
>>
>> What happens if all the resources, or at least the most important set
>> that everyone wants, are simply placed into the ETEN DBL?  Then the
>> translator uses the same LOGOS license to download their favorite resources
>> directly into their Paratext environment... same as any other PT8
>> resource?  You download once and then you no longer need the Internet.
>>
>> In this manner, PT8 for Linux runs fine natively and we obviate the need
>> to port Logos or whatever other engine into Linux.  The port is not going
>> to happen.
>>
>> Is this too simplistic a solution?  Some resources would never work?  We
>> could be discussing this approach with LSDev if it seemed viable enough.
>>
>> Blessings...   -B
>>
>> On 08/02/18 00:47, Stephen Fierbaugh (TSC) wrote:
>>
>> Logos is a wonderful and beautiful system, but it is unsuitable to the
>> needs of many bandwidth-constrained projects.  We offer our FCs both the
>> Logos and Folio versions, and continue to get significant numbers of
>> requests for both.  I know GPS doesn't want to hear this, but I don't think
>> Folio is going anywhere soon.
>>
>> Stephen
>> On 02/07/2018 06:59 AM, David Gardner wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nate,
>>  This is a case where a decision made years (a decade, more?) ago is still
>> hurting our organisation, and I hate to think how much effort has been
>> made (both from SIL and from Logos' authors) making things (un)available on
>> this platform.
>>
>> When the move to Logos (or libronix as it was called then) was first floated,
>> the company was planning to make a Linux version. I've been checking back
>> every few years since and it seems that the decision is  'we've decided it's
>> not commercially viable to make a version for Linux.'
>>
>> According to  https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=771 the last version working with WINE was Libronix 2.1c. Every version
>> after says that the wine compatability score is 'garbage'.
>>
>> There is an online (web) version, if I read correctly that costs extra money.
>> I have no idea if the web version has all the TW resources available in it.
>>
>> There is an Android version (64MByte download),  I have no idea if running
>> that under some kind of android emulator might be a viable option.
>>
>> I have no idea if it needs an internet connection to function.
>> I have no idea if it has all the TW resources available in it.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 07:52:21AM +0100, Nate wrote:
>>
>> Last time I checked Logos has no plans to support Linux-bases OSes. With
>> Translator's Workplace based on it, and now I've learned that Le Bureau du
>> Traducteur is also based on it, this seems like it will soon become a
>> prerequisite before translators in my region would be willing to adopt Linux
>> (Wasta or Ubuntu).
>>
>> I know the Wasta team has spent considerable time making Translator's
>> Workplace usable in Wasta, but since it's the Folio version I'm a little
>> worried about how long that will continue to be a viable solution. Can
>> anyone speak to that particular issue: the long-term viability of TW-Folio?
>>
>> So I'd like to know if there's any movement, or hope, of making Logos work
>> reliably on Linux. If anyone has any ideas or leads, I'm willing to set
>> aside a little bit of time to contribute to this effort. I'm planning to
>> look into it more myself, but I didn't want to dive in without first seeing
>> if anyone else has experience with this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nate
>>
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