[sword-devel] Catholic and Catholic2 versification
DM Smith
dmsmith at crosswire.org
Fri Jun 9 11:13:44 MST 2017
Here are the stats for as far back as we have them. Total by module broken out by “agent” and then by country. Other (SWORD) is the installmgr that doesn’t further identify itself like xiphos and PocketSword do. FTP & HTTP - Direct downloads are all downloads that are not identified as one of the others.
Given the high number of times that PorCap has been downloaded, I think we need to try to maintain backward compatibility.
[dmsmith at www bin]$ ./moduleStats.pl -name KonNYM,PorCap,SloStritar -start 1900-01-01 -end now
16085 PorCap
By agent
8441 AndBible (JSword)
3688 Portugal
3393 Brazil
466 Mozambique
194 Angola
96 Cape Verde
65 United States
50 Germany
47 Italy
39 Spain
37 France
32 Philippines
25 South Africa
25 United Kingdom
19 Switzerland
18 Netherlands
16 Mexico
11 Guinea-Bissau
11 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
9 Czech Republic
9 Timor-Leste
8 Europe
8 Poland
8 Egypt
8 Lithuania
8 Sao Tome and Principe
7 United Arab Emirates
6 Trinidad and Tobago
6 China
6 Indonesia
6 India
5 Asia/Pacific Region
5 Namibia
4 Sweden
4 Korea, Republic of
4 Argentina
4 Russian Federation
4 Vietnam
4 Romania
4 Greece
4 Belgium
4 Venezuela
3 Peru
3 Nigeria
3 Qatar
3 Turkey
3 Paraguay
3 Israel
3 Madagascar
3 Canada
3 Austria
3 Andorra
2 Uruguay
2 Guatemala
2 Dominican Republic
2 Japan
2 Ecuador
2 Algeria
2 Kenya
2 Taiwan
2 Singapore
2 Cote D'Ivoire
2 French Guiana
1 Benin
1 Hungary
1 Zambia
1 Hong Kong
1 Guinea
1 Holy See (Vatican City State)
1 Serbia
1 Morocco
1 Bolivia
1 Australia
1 Macau
1 Cyprus
1 Thailand
1 Luxembourg
1 Ukraine
1 Chile
1 Colombia
1 Haiti
1 Bosnia and Herzegovina
1 Malaysia
1 Denmark
1 Senegal
3290 Other (SWORD)
1799 Brazil
500 United States
165 Portugal
74 Germany
61 Italy
44 Mexico
40 Canada
37 United Kingdom
34 Mozambique
22 Sweden
22 Japan
21 Netherlands
20 Russian Federation
18 Korea, Republic of
18 France
17 South Africa
16 Ukraine
15 Angola
15 Poland
15 Spain
13 Australia
13 Switzerland
13 Finland
13 Venezuela
11 Czech Republic
11 Dominican Republic
10 Guatemala
10 Ecuador
10 Philippines
10 Belgium
10 Chile
10 Colombia
9 Hungary
9 Argentina
9 New Zealand
8 Indonesia
8 Ireland
8 Ghana
7 Romania
6 Austria
5 Honduras
5 Madagascar
5 Cameroon
4 Uruguay
4 Zambia
4 Ethiopia
4 Peru
4 Tunisia
4 Mauritius
4 Paraguay
4 El Salvador
4 Kenya
4 Bulgaria
4 Zimbabwe
3 Hong Kong
3 Nigeria
3 Croatia
3 India
3 Bolivia
3 Norway
3 Luxembourg
3 Cape Verde
2 Guadeloupe
2 Qatar
2 Serbia
2 Slovakia
2 Moldova, Republic of
2 Israel
2 Egypt
2 Thailand
2 Belarus
2 Cote D'Ivoire
2 Kazakhstan
2 Greece
2 Uganda
2 Tanzania, United Republic of
2 Costa Rica
1 Puerto Rico
1 Nepal
1 Trinidad and Tobago
1 Guinea
1 Guyana
1 Congo
1 Estonia
1 Armenia
1 Oman
1 Nicaragua
1 Faroe Islands
1 Slovenia
1 Gabon
1 Taiwan
1 Macedonia
1 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
1 Lithuania
1 Singapore
1 Vietnam
1 Timor-Leste
1 Malaysia
1 Cambodia
1 New Caledonia
1 Denmark
1 Senegal
1 Rwanda
1490 Xiphos (SWORD)
1027 Brazil
249 Portugal
77 United States
14 Germany
11 Tunisia
9 France
9 Spain
7 United Kingdom
6 Canada
6 South Africa
6 Italy
5 Romania
5 Poland
4 Mozambique
4 Philippines
3 Norway
3 Angola
3 Finland
3 Ireland
3 Mexico
2 Bolivia
2 Uruguay
2 Sweden
2 Argentina
2 Cape Verde
2 Netherlands
2 Venezuela
2 Albania
1 Australia
1 Russian Federation
1 Switzerland
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Azerbaijan
1 China
1 Indonesia
1 Austria
1 Cameroon
1 Greece
1 Turkey
1 Zimbabwe
1 Ghana
1 Belgium
1 Sao Tome and Principe
1 Chile
1 Japan
1 Moldova, Republic of
1 Israel
1 Denmark
1205 PocketSword (SWORD)
861 Portugal
175 Brazil
35 United States
20 Philippines
10 Italy
9 Switzerland
9 United Kingdom
9 Angola
9 Germany
7 Israel
7 Spain
6 Bosnia and Herzegovina
5 Canada
4 Mozambique
3 Australia
3 Japan
3 France
3 Poland
2 Macau
2 China
2 South Africa
2 Belgium
2 Sao Tome and Principe
2 Mexico
1 Bolivia
1 Sweden
1 Zambia
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Norway
1 United Arab Emirates
1 Guatemala
1 Singapore
1 Peru
1 Finland
1 Czech Republic
1 Cape Verde
1 Turkey
1 Netherlands
1 Namibia
1034 HTTP - Direct download
629 Brazil
102 Portugal
48 United States
47 Germany
19 Korea, Republic of
17 United Kingdom
15 Philippines
9 Japan
8 Argentina
8 Sao Tome and Principe
8 Mexico
7 Italy
6 Canada
6 Mozambique
6 Israel
6 Panama
6 Spain
5 Angola
5 France
5 India
4 China
4 Finland
4 Venezuela
4 Poland
3 Hungary
3 South Africa
3 Indonesia
3 Tunisia
2 Bolivia
2 Europe
2 Switzerland
2 United Arab Emirates
2 Nigeria
2 Czech Republic
2 Colombia
2 Netherlands
2 Costa Rica
2 Ecuador
2 Jamaica
2 Senegal
1 Uruguay
1 N/A
1 Taiwan
1 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
1 Macau
1 Ethiopia
1 Bermuda
1 Singapore
1 Peru
1 Asia/Pacific Region
1 Romania
1 Austria
1 Cameroon
1 Nicaragua
1 Greece
1 Turkey
1 Ghana
1 Paraguay
1 Malaysia
1 Sint Maarten (Dutch part)
277 Other (JSword)
217 Brazil
26 United States
6 Portugal
5 Angola
4 Germany
2 Australia
2 Philippines
2 Mexico
1 Bolivia
1 Italy
1 Macedonia
1 Russian Federation
1 Belgium
1 United Kingdom
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Guyana
1 Japan
1 South Africa
1 Indonesia
1 Peru
1 Martinique
251 Search engine
130 United States
93 China
13 Germany
7 Korea, Republic of
4 France
3 Denmark
1 Latvia
97 FTP - Direct download
39 United States
9 Brazil
8 Portugal
6 France
6 Ukraine
5 United Kingdom
3 Germany
3 Korea, Republic of
3 Thailand
3 Guatemala
2 Italy
2 Russian Federation
2 Mexico
1 Australia
1 Chile
1 Colombia
1 South Africa
1 Israel
1 Czech Republic
============
1427 SloStritar
By agent
799 Other (SWORD)
257 United States
105 Brazil
53 Netherlands
37 Germany
26 Canada
24 Italy
15 Sweden
15 Mexico
14 Japan
14 United Kingdom
12 Czech Republic
12 France
11 Poland
11 Russian Federation
10 South Africa
9 Ukraine
9 Finland
8 Australia
7 Korea, Republic of
7 Dominican Republic
7 Austria
6 Ghana
6 Slovenia
6 Belgium
5 Ecuador
5 Switzerland
5 New Zealand
5 Venezuela
4 Portugal
4 Nigeria
4 Croatia
4 Spain
4 Colombia
3 Hungary
3 Guatemala
3 Serbia
3 Kenya
3 Bulgaria
3 Belarus
3 Cameroon
3 Chile
2 Ethiopia
2 Armenia
2 Argentina
2 Mauritius
2 El Salvador
2 India
2 Romania
2 Greece
2 Cape Verde
2 Philippines
2 Tanzania, United Republic of
2 Zimbabwe
2 Haiti
1 Zambia
1 Nepal
1 Hong Kong
1 Guyana
1 Congo
1 Indonesia
1 Peru
1 Saudi Arabia
1 Oman
1 Ireland
1 Qatar
1 Tunisia
1 Malawi
1 Moldova, Republic of
1 Israel
1 Taiwan
1 Macedonia
1 Micronesia, Federated States of
1 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
1 Norway
1 Thailand
1 Singapore
1 Vietnam
1 Cote D'Ivoire
1 Uganda
1 Costa Rica
1 Kuwait
1 Senegal
196 AndBible (JSword)
81 Slovenia
32 Czech Republic
11 United Kingdom
11 Slovakia
7 Germany
7 Switzerland
6 United States
6 Ukraine
5 Austria
4 Poland
3 Russian Federation
3 Ireland
2 Egypt
2 Philippines
2 Croatia
2 Vietnam
1 Serbia
1 Trinidad and Tobago
1 Belgium
1 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
1 Bulgaria
1 Canada
1 China
1 Brazil
1 Netherlands
1 India
1 Spain
1 Greece
160 Search engine
104 China
50 United States
2 Germany
2 Korea, Republic of
1 France
1 Denmark
95 HTTP - Direct download
19 Slovenia
17 United Kingdom
10 Germany
6 United States
5 Korea, Republic of
5 Israel
3 Sweden
2 Hungary
2 Canada
2 Ecuador
2 Slovakia
2 Jamaica
2 Poland
2 Austria
2 Spain
1 Italy
1 Trinidad and Tobago
1 Tunisia
1 Mexico
1 China
1 Brazil
1 Ethiopia
1 South Africa
1 Croatia
1 Malaysia
1 Ukraine
1 Finland
1 India
1 Cameroon
71 FTP - Direct download
34 United States
4 Germany
4 United Kingdom
4 Ukraine
3 Russian Federation
3 Thailand
3 France
2 Australia
2 Switzerland
2 Guatemala
2 Finland
1 Italy
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Colombia
1 Japan
1 Poland
1 Slovenia
1 Romania
1 Portugal
71 Xiphos (SWORD)
15 United States
13 Slovenia
6 United Kingdom
4 Tunisia
4 Brazil
4 Poland
4 Czech Republic
3 Germany
2 Switzerland
2 France
2 South Africa
2 Finland
1 Australia
1 Sweden
1 Hungary
1 New Zealand
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Faroe Islands
1 Ukraine
1 Romania
1 Denmark
1 Spain
21 Other (JSword)
13 United States
1 Australia
1 Indonesia
1 Croatia
1 United Kingdom
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Mexico
1 Slovenia
1 Brazil
14 PocketSword (SWORD)
6 United States
3 United Kingdom
1 Slovenia
1 Israel
1 Germany
1 Croatia
1 Austria
============
919 KonNYM
By agent
557 Other (SWORD)
204 United States
68 Brazil
25 Germany
20 Canada
18 Italy
14 United Kingdom
13 Japan
10 South Africa
9 Mexico
9 France
8 Sweden
8 Russian Federation
8 Ukraine
7 Czech Republic
7 Poland
6 Venezuela
5 Korea, Republic of
5 Portugal
5 Dominican Republic
5 Netherlands
5 Australia
5 New Zealand
4 Hungary
4 Ethiopia
4 Ecuador
4 Spain
4 Switzerland
4 Finland
4 Austria
4 Belgium
4 Colombia
3 Belarus
3 Tanzania, United Republic of
3 Chile
2 Guatemala
2 Nigeria
2 Moldova, Republic of
2 Croatia
2 India
2 Taiwan
2 Romania
2 Cameroon
2 Senegal
1 Zambia
1 Hong Kong
1 China
1 Guyana
1 Congo
1 Indonesia
1 Peru
1 Armenia
1 Saudi Arabia
1 Oman
1 Ghana
1 Serbia
1 Tunisia
1 Malawi
1 Mauritius
1 El Salvador
1 Kenya
1 Bulgaria
1 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
1 Macau
1 Norway
1 Thailand
1 Singapore
1 Cote D'Ivoire
1 Kazakhstan
1 Greece
1 Cape Verde
1 Uganda
1 Philippines
1 Zimbabwe
123 Search engine
80 China
37 United States
3 Korea, Republic of
2 Germany
1 France
72 HTTP - Direct download
15 United Kingdom
11 Korea, Republic of
8 Germany
7 United States
5 Israel
5 Spain
3 Poland
2 Canada
2 Brazil
2 Malaysia
1 Benin
1 Philippines
1 Sweden
1 Tunisia
1 Ethiopia
1 Ecuador
1 South Africa
1 Cambodia
1 Finland
1 India
1 Austria
1 Cameroon
51 AndBible (JSword)
11 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
7 Switzerland
5 Angola
3 Germany
3 United Kingdom
2 Zimbabwe
2 United States
2 Colombia
2 Brazil
2 Congo
2 Cote D'Ivoire
2 Rwanda
1 Benin
1 Tanzania, United Republic of
1 Ghana
1 Israel
1 India
1 Togo
1 Namibia
1 Greece
49 Xiphos (SWORD)
15 United States
4 Germany
4 Tunisia
4 Brazil
3 Poland
2 Australia
2 Korea, Republic of
2 Congo, The Democratic Republic of the
2 South Africa
2 Finland
1 Switzerland
1 United Kingdom
1 New Zealand
1 Canada
1 Japan
1 France
1 Ireland
1 Romania
1 Denmark
44 FTP - Direct download
24 United States
3 France
3 United Kingdom
3 Thailand
2 Australia
2 Guatemala
2 Switzerland
2 Korea, Republic of
1 Finland
1 Portugal
1 Spain
14 Other (JSword)
9 United States
2 United Kingdom
1 Brazil
1 Korea, Republic of
1 Mexico
9 PocketSword (SWORD)
2 United Kingdom
2 Kenya
1 Germany
1 United States
1 Ireland
1 Namibia
1 Netherlands
============
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 1:33 PM, DM Smith <dmsmith at crosswire.org> wrote:
>
> I’d like to have Troy and Peter’s guidance on this. It is both a software and a module management issue. Back in the day, we knew this was likely to happen.
>
> I’m still gathering stats. It is a slow process. I think it should help inform a decision. The upshot is that there are thousands of downloads of these three modules since they have been introduced. Some are more popular than others. Details to follow.
>
> The question is how to go forward. One way is to break backward compatibility. The other is to try to create a reasonable migration path. (Which is what I recommend.)
>
> From an engineering perspective, we can have any number of versifications in the engine and they can have any name. However, we’ve been reluctant to add versifications, especially if they are one offs. So far versification names are a blend of A-Za-z0-9, I don’t know if there are other restrictions. It seems to follow C variable naming restrictions.
>
> Things to consider when updating a module’s conf.
> MinimumVersion. When we add a new versification, it is tied to a particular release. This means that new module potentially won’t be available until the SWORD engine is released (any day now….) and the front-end is updated.
>
> Obsoletes. For a module to obsolete another, it needs a different [Name] and have Obsoletes. It probably should have a different Description (old JSword bug, long since fixed, doesn’t like it when two modules have the same Description).
>
> Versification. It should give the appropriate v11n.
>
> DM
>
>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Not a lot! And Konnym doesn't have (not yet) the Old Testament. I manage it...
>> Then if you prefer to write a new v11n, I can do it. But what name to give it? And I would to write 2 v11n, one for esther 10 and one for Esther 16.
>> A name can be CatholicEs10, and CatholicEs16?
>>
>> Le 09/06/2017 à 15:46, DM Smith a écrit :
>>> On the CrossWire server the following are in the main repository:
>>> konnym.conf:Versification=Catholic2
>>> porcap.conf:Versification=Catholic
>>> slostritar.conf:Versification=Catholic
>>>
>>> Checking the download stats for these. Will get back with the results.
>>>
>>> In Him,
>>> DM
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Cyrille <lafricain79 at gmail.com <mailto:lafricain79 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What the solution proposed? Is it possible to know exactly how modules
>>>> are compiled with the Catholic and Catholic2? I'm interesting to know it...
>>>>
>>>> Le 06/06/2017 à 14:50, DM Smith a écrit :
>>>>> If an existing v11n changes, all modules released by it will have to be re-released with the update and all front-ends will have to be recompiled with it. JSword will need to change too and front-ends based upon it, also.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason is simple the index file for a testament is an indexed array with each verse in the v11n having a predetermined index.
>>>>>
>>>>> If no modules have been released with it, it is a fairly safe change. The risk are older front-ends with the wrong tables.
>>>>>
>>>>> Issuing a v2 (simply another v11n with a new name) and deprecating the older probably is a safer change.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Him,
>>>>
>>>>
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