[sword-devel] NASB

Tue Feb 21 16:37:14 MST 2017

Thanks for the info, I'm going to labor to convert stuff, and I'm using S3
as my repository for now.

I'm completely unaware of any politics surrounding Crosswire/SWORD and any
other module format, I just chose Zefania as an example, though I could
have mentioned e-sword, kindle, nook, pdf, etc. Many of my sources will be
simple webpages, such as http://www.aina.org/books/bftc/bftc.htm

I apologize if I opened an old wound of sorts. Or if the case is not
relational, but rather their theology of some kind, I understand. Just
know, I have no awareness of any sort of situation relating to the matter.
Just that it's a Bible study software engine/format.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Matt Zabojnik <mattzab at gmail.com> wrote:

The reasons are deep and political. Those who need to know them, already
know them.

I appreciate your discretion in  your answer. Conversion difficulties was
what I was primarily concerned with, so this is, in a sense, good news.

The text is under Copyright by Lockman. Distributing the work would not be
legally permitted without obtaining their permission.

Thank you. I have permission.

You have permission to distribute an NASB module from Lockman? That's
interesting.

It's important for our own resources to know whence the upstream work was
found.

I see. That being the case, there's no reason I wouldn't be able to convert
a PD work from Zefania XML for example, or any other format I find it in,
correct?

>From a technical perspective, you can convert from any source you can find
into a module for your own use. And from a technical perspective, it's very
easy to host your own module repository - requiring nothing more than an
accessible HTTP serving software.

As for Zefania, I don't believe you'll get much support or encouragement
from these parts surrounding Zefania.

--Greg

Thank you for your ongoing support and information. It is indeed very
helpful.

Blessings,
Matt

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Matt Zabojnik <mattzab at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the info!

Would you mind explaining in different terms your reason for aborting the
project? I didn't fully understand. Delivering to Lockman wasn't going to
work for some reason?

The reasons are deep and political. Those who need to know them, already
know them.

I haven't yet started working on this module, but the intent will be mass
distribution rather than personal use only.

The text is under Copyright by Lockman. Distributing the work would not be
legally permitted without obtaining their permission.

Is it common for people to convert stuff for personal use? And how
important is it to declare where I obtained a source text for public domain
materials? I didn't see coverage on either of those in the wiki.

It's important for our own resources to know whence the upstream work was
found. This allows repeatable module generation should the upstream source
ever be updated and corrected. Very often problems are uncovered in
upstream works during the module creation process and this typically
continues once the module is in users' hands. The NASB, however, is not a
public domain work.

--Greg

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017, 12:15 PM Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
wrote:

Eons ago, Crosswire received permission from Lockman to begin work on an
NSAB module that they could commercially deliver to users who paid for it.

Many people have tackled the work of performing the conversions from
Lockman's internal, proprietary markup to a Sword module. Each one has, for
various reasons, abandoned the work. Most recently it was me, and I gave up
due to a lack of a consistent or realistic objective for delivery of the
results to Lockman.

You can, essentially, assume that nothing more will ever come of it from
the official channel. You'd be best to pursue converting another digital
source for your own personal use.

--Greg

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Matt Zabojnik <mattzab at gmail.com> wrote:

What's the status on the NASB module? I saw it mentioned in the dictionary
message. This is the first I've heard of it, being new to sword devel.

I'm currently working to convert NASB with strongs, footnotes and
references, but I need to learn OSIS and RegEx better first.

Who here is the point-man on tyre work that's already been done there?

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