[sword-devel] NASB?

[Nic Carter]

Ditto with PocketSword, if we're that close to a release... :)

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> On 21 Mar 2015, at 00:44, Chris Burrell <christopher.burrell at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Happy to test it on step but would need module
> From: DM Smith
> Sent: ‎20/‎03/‎2015 13:40
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] NASB?
> 
> I had to make changes in JSword to accommodate the NASB. It is checked in. It works properly for Bible Desktop. I don’t know if it has been incorporated into AndBible or STEP.
> 
> I’m readying a release for Bible Desktop. Hope to have the nightly builds running again soon. Then a limited beta with those. Followed by an official beta. (I’ve about a dozen places that the av11n is not right, still assuming KJV.)
> 
> Last I looked, we have about 3K downloads of Bible Desktop a month from the CrossWire server. Haven’t looked recently. This is nothing compared to AndBible.
> 
> Part of the process is to change how I develop so that I don’t have changes that preclude more frequent releases. (That’s a different discussion.)
> 
> — DM
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for your concern Jon; it is understandable given the time to release for this module.  The mandate was simply that we test on the major filter variations of SWORD and one JSword app before release.
>> 
>>> On 03/20/2015 03:43 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> The last version I saw worked with BPBible, but that was a few years ago.
>>> You are correct on av11n though - if NASB's now using av11n then even NRSV (?) versification gives odd results in BPBible once you get into Revelation.
>>> 
>>> My view on that is the same as my view on BibleDesktop - there comes a time when the cost of stopping people using a module outweighs the benefits of waiting till every app handles it nicely.
>>> I would have been disappointed if lots of existing modules were reissued with av11n six months or a year after the av11n release and a number of apps weren't ready.
>>> However, now we're years afterwards.  I'm still disappointed, but the disappointment is more not being able to get time to make BPBible support it.
>>> CrossWire has to be able to move on without being held back too long by all the existing apps, otherwise people will be missing out on new functionality.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Peter           Von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> FWIW, I would think, it won't work properly with                     BpBible either, until BpBible implements av11n.
>>>>  
>>>> Peter
>>>>  
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 20. März 2015 um 09:54 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Jonathan Morgan" <jonmmorgan at gmail.com>
>>>> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] NASB?
>>>> Hi Greg/Troy,
>>>>  
>>>> >From the point of view of an outsider to the decision making process, I'm concerned that you are preventing access by the many for the benefit of the few.
>>>> Of course, I don't know the exact time-frames we're talking here.  If it's a case of an extra few months on top of a process which has lasted years it would be reasonable.
>>>> If it ends up much longer, then I think the cost to users of other frontends is much greater than the benefit of this policy.
>>>> This particularly applies as (as I understand it) the NASB will be a "for sale" module which could have a clear disclaimer "this will not work properly with BibleDesktop" and probably won't be immediately available for sale the day you sign off on it (I find Greg's "the next step in the process" comment ominous).
>>>>  
>>>> Jon
>>>>  
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm waiting on DM to release the new version of BibleDesktop which has
>>>>> several style handling improvements utilized by the NASB. Troy has
>>>>> mandated that the module appear properly in the main desktop
>>>>> applications, and that's the last one to come into line.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once that's done, then we can move on to the next step in the process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Greg
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Greg Hellings took up the NASB project.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > David
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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