[sword-devel] NASB?

Fri Mar 20 06:36:35 MST 2015

I’ve already done the NAS Greek and Hebrew. At least it is a first pass. When I did it, we were just beginning to use TEI for dictionaries. So it needs to be revisited. Especially the linking of entries one to another. At that time, the SWORD software assumed that all references were to Bibles.

Greg and I will discuss it offline.

In Him,
	DM

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> To that end, I don't follow JSword as closely as SWORD itself, but I
> know the necessary fixes are into the JSword repository and I thought
> they had been released. All that we're now waiting for is BibleDesktop
> to be updated with a release. I'm not aware of any outstanding bugs in
> the NASB conversion itself, though I'll have to comb through my email
> in order to be sure.
> 
> After that, it is still necessary to tackle the NASGreek and NASHebrew
> companion lexica that should live alongside the NASB. HIstorically,
> however, the TEI filters have been woefully under-capable in their
> outputs to make this look good (though I saw Peter hacking away on the
> TEI filters recently). I also don't know the first thing about TEI
> other than that it is an XML dialect. I'll need to beef up my
> knowledge of it in order to get through those conversions. But I don't
> know if Troy will want to go back to Lockman with the NASB module
> directly while we continue work on the lexica or if the two are
> supposed to be a unit. I'm just playing to the technical side of the
> work, not the external interfacing with Lockman. He'll have to speak
> to the coordination piece of the puzzle.
> 
> --Greg
> 
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Troy A. Griffitts <scribe at crosswire.org> wrote:
>> Thank you for your concern Jon; it is understandable given the time to
>> release for this module.  The mandate was simply that we test on the major
>> filter variations of SWORD and one JSword app before release.
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/20/2015 03:43 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> The last version I saw worked with BPBible, but that was a few years ago.
>> You are correct on av11n though - if NASB's now using av11n then even NRSV
>> (?) versification gives odd results in BPBible once you get into Revelation.
>> 
>> My view on that is the same as my view on BibleDesktop - there comes a time
>> when the cost of stopping people using a module outweighs the benefits of
>> waiting till every app handles it nicely.
>> I would have been disappointed if lots of existing modules were reissued
>> with av11n six months or a year after the av11n release and a number of apps
>> weren't ready.
>> However, now we're years afterwards.  I'm still disappointed, but the
>> disappointment is more not being able to get time to make BPBible support
>> it.
>> CrossWire has to be able to move on without being held back too long by all
>> the existing apps, otherwise people will be missing out on new
>> functionality.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Peter Von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I would think, it won't work properly with BpBible either, until
>>> BpBible implements av11n.
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 20. März 2015 um 09:54 Uhr
>>> Von: "Jonathan Morgan" <jonmmorgan at gmail.com>
>>> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
>>> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] NASB?
>>> Hi Greg/Troy,
>>> 
>>>> From the point of view of an outsider to the decision making process, I'm
>>> concerned that you are preventing access by the many for the benefit of the
>>> few.
>>> Of course, I don't know the exact time-frames we're talking here.  If it's
>>> a case of an extra few months on top of a process which has lasted years it
>>> would be reasonable.
>>> If it ends up much longer, then I think the cost to users of other
>>> frontends is much greater than the benefit of this policy.
>>> This particularly applies as (as I understand it) the NASB will be a "for
>>> sale" module which could have a clear disclaimer "this will not work
>>> properly with BibleDesktop" and probably won't be immediately available for
>>> sale the day you sign off on it (I find Greg's "the next step in the
>>> process" comment ominous).
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Greg Hellings <greg.hellings at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm waiting on DM to release the new version of BibleDesktop which has
>>>> several style handling improvements utilized by the NASB. Troy has
>>>> mandated that the module appear properly in the main desktop
>>>> applications, and that's the last one to come into line.
>>>> 
>>>> Once that's done, then we can move on to the next step in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> --Greg
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:28 AM, David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Greg Hellings took up the NASB project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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