[sword-devel] French versifications, was Re: FreJND and HebDelitzsch released

Peter von Kaehne refdoc at gmx.net
Sun Aug 23 02:29:30 MST 2015


Interesting and quite probably useful would be to know if any 'colonial' translations would benefit from any of these three v11ns. I do think Malagassy was difficult to fit, also Kahunapule might have translations from French Polynesian background. 

Peter

Sent from my phone. Apologies for brevity and typos.On 23 Aug 2015 7:31 am, Peter von Kaehne <refdoc at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Domcox,
>
> This is brilliant news.
>
> Peter
>
> Sent from my phone. Apologies for brevity and typos.On 22 Aug 2015 11:30 pm, domcox <dominique.corbex at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 08:53:32 -0700 (PDT) 
> > David Haslam <dfhmch at googlemail.com> wrote: 
> >
> > > I just compared the text of module FreJND Version 1.20 with Version 1.19. 
> >
> > > These are serious issues that need fixing. 
> >
> >
> > In February, I started a survey of versification scheme in French Bibles. 
> > I used only reliable sources: facsimile, scan, photo of original Bibles or printed Bibles. 
> > See: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Survey_of_versification_schemes_in_French_Bibles 
> >
> > I eventually created 3 new versification schemes for Sword. Right now, I've entered the 
> > final stage of building and testing Sword with these 3 new Schemes. 
> >
> > These 3 versification schemes suits all major French Bibles: 
> > * canon_calvin.h for the original Bible d'Olivétan and followers, 1560+ Bible de Genève, 1707-1855 Bible D. Martin, 1744-1996 Bible F. Ostervald and so on 
> > * canon_darbyfr.h for the French Darby and revisions 
> > * canon_segond.h for the Louis Segond Bible and revisions, 1910, 1978, 2002 (NBS), 2007 (SG21) 
> >
> > Results are interesting: 
> >
> > 1. Before: 
> >
> > $ osis2mod sword darby.osis.xml -z 
> > You are running osis2mod: $Rev: 3314 $ 
> > INFO(V11N): Lev.5.20 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content to Lev.5.19 
> > INFO(WRITE): Appending entry: Lev.5.19: <div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" sID="pv381"/><div sID="gen646" type="x-p"/> <div type="x-milestone" subType="x-preverse" eID="pv381"/>Et l'<divineName>Éternel</divineName> parla à Moïse, disant : 
> > INFO(V11N): Lev.5.21 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content to Lev.5.19 
> > INFO(WRITE): Appending entry: Lev.5.19: Si quelqu'un a péché, et a commis une infidélité envers l'<divineName>Éternel</divineName>, et a menti à son prochain pour une chose qu'on lui a confiée, ou qu'on a déposée entre ses mains, ou qu'il a volée, ou extorquée à son prochain ; 
> > INFO(V11N): Lev.5.22 is not in the KJV versification. Appending content to Lev.5.19 
> > INFO(WRITE): Appending entry: Lev.5.19: ou s'il a trouvé une chose perdue, et qu'il mente à ce sujet, et qu'il jure en mentant à l'égard de l'une de toutes les choses qu'un homme fait de manière à pécher en les faisant<note n="f" osisID="Lev.5.22_1" osisRef="Lev.5.22"><hi type="italic">litt.</hi>: par elles.</note> ; 
> > ..<excerpt>.. 
> >
> > $ diatheke -b FreJND -k Lev 5:26 
> > Leviticus 6:7: Et c'est ici la loi de l'offrande de gâteau : [l'un] des fils d'Aaron la présentera devant l'ÉTERNEL, devant l'autel. 
> > : Et c'est ici la loi de l'offrande de gâteau : [l'un] des fils d'Aaron la présentera devant l'ÉTERNEL, devant l'autel. 
> > (FreJND) 
> >
> > (wrong verse returned) 
> >
> >
> > 2. With the new v11n applied: 
> >
> > $ osis2mod sword darby.osis.xml -z -v DarbyFR 
> > You are running osis2mod: $Rev: 3314 $ 
> > SUCCESS: osis2mod: has finished its work and will now rest 
> > $ 
> >
> > $ diatheke -b FreJND -k Lev 5:26 
> > Leviticus 5:26: Et le sacrificateur fera propitiation pour lui devant l'ÉTERNEL ; et il lui sera pardonné, quelle que soit la faute qu'il ait faite en laquelle il s'est rendu coupable. 
> > (FreJND) 
> >
> > (match the printed Bible) 
> >
> > Schemes are on the wiki, you just need to patch src/mgr/versificationmgr.cpp accordingly. 
> >
> > I have good hope to complete before the end of the week. 
> >
> > -- 
> > domcox <dominique.corbex at gmail.com> 
> >
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