[sword-devel] Project “Free Scriptures” started

Tue Feb 25 01:18:21 MST 2014

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On 25.02.2014 02:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> I hesitate to even humor yet another response to unwarranted
> criticism.
> 
> Let's just say what you really mean:  You think people have
> trouble contributing to the SWORD project because we don't use your
> choice of source control software and because we have a very tight
> approval process for acceptance of code into our core engine.

If you think criticism on part of VCS and patch approval process is
unwarranted, what are your arguments?

Blessings,
Jaak

On 25.02.2014 02:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Jaak,
> 
> I hesitate to even humor yet another response to unwarranted
> criticism.
> 
> Let's just say what you really mean:  You think people have
> trouble contributing to the SWORD project because we don't use your
> choice of source control software and because we have a very tight
> approval process for acceptance of code into our core engine.
> 
> I am sorry, but these things are not on our agenda to change.
> 
> Troy
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/24/2014 02:35 AM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: Hi!
> 
> I must say that although I do not agree with all the criticism of
> the Sword project I do agree with some of it, and I actually hope
> that a bit of healthy competition would help both parties.
> 
> IMHO this again highlights some of the problems of the Sword
> project which have also been discussed previously: e.g. Sword
> module formats are not well documented and formalized (making them
> "unreadable"). In addition, although Sword is GPL, there are many
> obstacles for outsiders to actually start contributing to the
> project, hence I somewhat understand why Sword might be perceived
> as not Free software. The same goes for the distribution (and
> modification) of modules.
> 
> It seems to me that the "Free Scriptures" project is an effort to 
> develop a more open project with more freely distributable and 
> modifiable modules. Seems like a good idea to me.
> 
> Blessings, Jaak
> 
> PS: Personally I'd consider a BSD/MIT license for the software.
> 
> 
> On 22.02.2014 22:02, Stephan Kreutzer wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I just want to announce that the project “Free Scriptures”
>>>> (see http://www.free-scriptures.org) was started some time
>>>> ago, which has the goal of developing freely licensed
>>>> software for processing bible texts into various output
>>>> formats. It will also serve as platform for “language teams”
>>>> who work on the digitalization, proofreading and reproduction
>>>> of bible texts of their native language. This way, we hope to
>>>> establish a repository of public domain and freely licensed
>>>> bible texts, which are carefully checked and ready for
>>>> processing. At the same time, the language teams will be
>>>> responsible for preparing and publishing the bible texts 
>>>> according to the context of their own language. The
>>>> international “Free Scriptures” platform is intended to help
>>>> the language-specific “branches” of the project. As we
>>>> promote free software philosophy and practices in the field
>>>> of bible software, we’re therefore limited to bible
>>>> translations which are either in the public domain or which
>>>> are freely licensed initially. Not only are our software
>>>> tools freely licensed, they’re also required to be usable on
>>>> freely licensed computer software environments. We refuse to
>>>> use or integrate non-free, restrictive, proprietary
>>>> software, because digital freedom matters for each and every
>>>> user, especially if it comes to a highly important topic like
>>>> the text of the bible. Please note that price isn’t an issue
>>>> at all as we face artificial legal and technical restrictions
>>>> – freely licensed bible software and bible texts can be used
>>>> commercially and non-commercially at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> Since the SWORD project doesn’t seem to be much concerned
>>>> about digital freedom (no repository of OSIS sources, only
>>>> unreadable SWORD modules) or the quality of bible texts (no
>>>> checking, distribution of incorrect texts), I hope you at
>>>> least don’t hinder our efforts, since you too can benefit
>>>> from them. Probably you may even improve your approach to one
>>>> which is more compatible with other free (bible) software. If
>>>> you have some questions or suggestions, please feel free to
>>>> contact us. We host a discussion board on our website, where
>>>> guests have write access. At the moment, there are several
>>>> posts present in German language, which only stay there for
>>>> the purpose of translation.
>>>> 
>>>> As a first task, we’re working on a tool for converting OSIS
>>>> to Haggai XML. In the past, we’ve specified Haggai XML as our
>>>> own bible text encoding format, which is based on Zefania
>>>> XML. Since neither Zefania XML nor OSIS are well-designed XML
>>>> formats for bible text encoding, Haggai XML was intended as
>>>> an improvement suggestion for Zefania XML. Zefania XML will
>>>> now get improved to Zefania XML 2014, hopefully by keeping
>>>> it’s basic and primitive structure, which is ideal for the
>>>> digitalization of old, printed bible texts. If Zefania XML
>>>> 2014 gets released, we will consider to replace Haggai XML as
>>>> main input format for our tools by it. As for now, we
>>>> automatically generate PDF, EPUB2/3 and XHTML from Haggai XML
>>>> input. In order to do the processing for the German “Offene 
>>>> Bibel” (“Open Bible” – the only freely-licensed modern bible 
>>>> translation in German language, which gets translated 
>>>> collaboratively on Wiki software, providing OSIS output), we
>>>> work on a simple, basic conversion from OSIS to Haggai XML,
>>>> so that we can use all of our tools we’ve developed so far.
>>>> Those tools will get migrated to “Free Scriptures” within the
>>>> next time.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely, Stephan Kreutzer
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> PS: I can’t register to your forum, the registration form
>>>> gives a 404.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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