[sword-devel] merge raw & avraw repos?

[Chris Little]

This sounds more or less fine. I'll leave the av repositories on the 
server for a while, but empty, since we've never removed a repository 
before.

I'm not terribly sympathetic towards front ends that can't fail 
gracefully when a network resource is unavailable. Non-local resources 
are unavailable often, and that's something that should be planned for. 
We remove modules from repositories often (either to pull them entirely 
or to move them to another repository) and provide an updated 
mods.tar.gz; we should likewise be able to remove repositories and 
simply provide an updated masterRepoList.conf. I see providing a 
coherent masterRepoList.conf pointing to a set of existing repositories 
pointing to existing modules as the extent of our responsibility. That 
is all to say that if you have a stale cache, you should update or fail 
gracefully.

ZIPs for the main repository aren't generated automatically by us. But 
since this repository is linked from the website, they are inevitably 
generated soon after a module update because users or crawlers download 
them thorugh the intended interface (the webpage). (So technically no, 
but effectively yes, though there's still a small window in which a user 
grabbing from rawzip can get an old version of the module because the 
.conf is more recent than the zip contents.)

--Chris


On 10/31/2013 02:02 PM, Martin Denham wrote:
> Will the migration be done in such a way that front ends with a cached
> mods.d.tar.gz will not generate errors?  So something like:
>
> 1. remove modules from avraw mods.tar.gz
> 2. add modules to raw mods.tar.gz
> 3. copy modules from avraw folders to raw folders
> 4. a month or so later remove modules from avraw
> 5. later after front ends have removed references to avraw folders
> remove avraw folders and avraw/mods.tar.gz
>
> Regarding (5) can avpackages/rawzip and avraw/mods.tar.gz be left in
> place for a while, even when empty, otherwise JSword apps (I don't know
> about Sword apps) which reference these may throw errors.
>
> Are zip files automatically generated in packages/rawzip - I have never
> noticed any missing zips there like I have in avpackages/rawzip?
>
> Martin
>
>
> On 28 October 2013 08:29, Chris Little <chrislit at crosswire.org
> <mailto:chrislit at crosswire.org>> wrote:
>
>     LOL. It's nice to see such a level of consensus. :)
>
>     I'll wait until at least Sunday 11/2 to act, just in case anyone has
>     a good argument against merger.
>
>     --Chris
>
>
>     On 10/27/2013 7:14 PM, Nic Carter wrote:
>
>         Yup! :)
>
>         Sent from my phone, hence this email may be short...
>
>         On 28 Oct 2013, at 9:38, refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>
>         <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>>
>         <refdoc at gmx.net <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net> <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net
>         <mailto:refdoc at gmx.net>>> wrote:
>
>             Seconded
>
>             Sent from my HTC
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>             Subject: [sword-devel] merge raw & avraw repos?
>             Date: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 21:34
>
>
>             Just do it.
>
>             Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;)
>
>              > On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:05 AM, Chris Little
>             <chrislit at crosswire.org <mailto:chrislit at crosswire.org>
>             <mailto:chrislit at crosswire.org
>             <mailto:chrislit at crosswire.org>__>> wrote:
>              >
>              > It's been over 4 years since the release of Sword 1.6.0,
>             when av11n
>             was introduced. I believe that every front end that is still
>             maintained now supports (to one degree or another) av11n
>             modules.
>              >
>              > Following the release of Sword 1.7.0, I no longer produce
>             separate
>             KJV-v11n and av11n versions of modules when producing
>             updates. Also,
>             because of changes to the way osis2mod produces modules, all
>             new Bible
>             and commentary module releases are tagged as requiring Sword
>             1.7.0.
>              >
>              >
>              > Would now perhaps be a good time to merge the raw and avraw
>             repositories (i.e. get rid of the avraw repository and allow
>             av11n
>             material in raw)? I don't mind our hosting multiple
>             repositories, but
>             the av11n vs. non-av11n distinction is not one that I think
>             our users
>             ought to need to worry about. It just brings confusion.
>              >
>              > --Chris
>              >
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