[sword-devel] Bible-Discovery - non-free program using SWORD modules

[DM Smith]

On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:59 AM, DM Smith<dmsmith at crosswire.org>  
> wrote:
>> On 08/28/2009 09:25 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:36 AM, DM Smith<dmsmith at crosswire.org>   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/27/2009 03:32 PM, Matthew Talbert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Peter von Kaehne<refdoc at gmx.net>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Haslam wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone seen this site before?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.bible-discovery.com/ Bible-Discovery
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks to me jsword derived.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw no reference to availability of source code. Isn't this in
>>>>>>> breach
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the GPLv2 license?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It probably would be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't jsword LGPL?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. But, BD is GPL. However, the stylesheets are all GPL as part  
>>>> of BD.
>>>> JSword is not useful without the stylesheets. If they used/ 
>>>> derived from
>>>> one
>>>> of the stylesheet, then their program is infected.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not wishing to start another argument about the GPL, but I think
>>> that statement is questionable.
>>
>> The stylesheet is not part of the any jar file under LGPL but only  
>> one that
>> is GPL. It is part of BibleDesktop and not part of JSword.
>>
>> IMHO, academic discussions are fruitless.
>
> Obviously I'm not understanding something here.  When you mentioned
> that "JSword is not useful without the stylesheets", I assumed that
> you were positioning the stylesheets as part of JSword, hence my
> comments.  I assumed JSword provided HTML output as Sword does, and so
> a stylesheet would be a necessary part.  Does it only produce OSIS (or
> some equivalent) and then leave the application (BD, Alkitab, etc.) to
> format it by applying the stylesheet?  If not, what is the division of
> responsibility between "application" and "library"?

The application is responsible for providing an XSL stylesheet. JSword  
itself does not have one and without it, JSword will only transform  
module content into OSIS or spit back raw text. JSword itself knows  
how to take an xml document and transform it with an xsl stylesheet,  
but is ignorant of what that transformation is. It is the  
responsibility of the front-end to do the transformation. BD is the  
example of how that is done. It and all its components are GPL.

-- DM