[sword-devel] iPhone developers?

Ian Wagner iwagn973 at students.bju.edu
Mon Apr 20 05:27:14 MST 2009 

That is correct on the fees involved. Also, I believe that the same  
code will run fine on the jailbroken iPhones. The operating system  
works the same way, runs the same code, but has fewer restrictions.  
One of these restrictions that is lifted is code signing. I have two  
friends with jailbroken iPods and both of them were able to 1) run my  
properly signed application, and 2) download new applications from the  
app store so I don't think that will be a problem.

Ian
---------------
There's no place like 127.0.0.1
http://hiyono.dorms.bju.edu/ (only works @ BJU)

On Apr 20, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Chris Little wrote:

> It's my understanding that, in order to sign apps for use on an  
> iPhone/iPod Touch, you have to enroll in the $99/yr iPhone SDK  
> developer program. (Not just ADC.)
>
> IMO, it would be nice to have a jailbreak/Cydia version of the app.  
> These obviously reach a much smaller audience, but the whole culture  
> is much more in line with the Linuxiness and hackery that tends to  
> accompany free (as in GNU) software. A good example of AppStore and  
> jailbreak/Cydia apps coexisting is the two versions of Wolfenstein 3- 
> D for iPhone (which is not coincidentally also GPL). id software  
> released their code for Wolfenstein 3-D on iPhone at roughly the  
> same time they submitted the app to the AppStore. It was compiled  
> and released via Cydia by someone in that community almost  
> immediately. And some days later, it appeared in the AppStore for  
> $5, being sold by id officially.
>
> Folks will need to be careful, however, because Apple has licensing  
> restrictions in place that say if you're part of the SDK developer  
> program, you're not allowed to engage in jailbreak app development  
> (or some such thing). See http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/04/latest-iphone-developer-agreement-bans-jailbreaks.ars
>
> --Chris
>
>
> David Trotz wrote:
>> For in-house development that seems reasonable then for actual  
>> releases we
>> can use your profile. --
>> David
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Wagner [mailto:iwagn973 at students.bju.edu] Sent: Sunday,  
>> April 19, 2009 6:15 PM
>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] iPhone developers?
>> That's correct, but you would have to sign the application with a   
>> separate provisioning profile that you create..
>> Ian
>> ---------------
>> May the source be with you
>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:03 PM, David Trotz wrote:
>>> So, let me understand this better. I have an iPhone developer   
>>> account, does
>>> that mean I have my own 100 device count as well?
>>> --
>>> David
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ian Wagner [mailto:iwagn973 at students.bju.edu]
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:46 PM
>>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] iPhone developers?
>>>
>>> Yes, very restrictive they are. The development provisioning profile
>>> is separate, but each iPhone developer account is limited to 100
>>> devices total. At the moment I'm a good ways off from my limit. I
>>> won't add any more beta testers after the end of this week as is
>>> posted on my site so I should have plenty of room if any other
>>> developers wish to help out. Any developers that want in can send me
>>> their device's UUID (see
>>> http://www.ispeeddial.com/how-to-find-your-iphone-uuid/)
>>> and I will add them to the provisioning profile. Then they will be
>>> able to run the development version on their devices.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>> ---------------
>>> May the source be with you
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:31 PM, David Trotz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>> That's new to me. I knew Apple was pretty restrictive to the  
>>>> release
>>>> of
>>>> apps, didn't realize it would have an impact on developing and
>>>> testing of
>>>> software. How will this affect the devs, I am assuming we also need
>>>> one of
>>>> those 100 slots? Anyhow I am very interested in helping out. I have
>>>> done a
>>>> significant amount of work on SwordReader for the Windows Mobile
>>>> platform
>>>> over the past year and a half and have just grown so tired of
>>>> windows on my
>>>> phone that I decided to jump ship and go with an iPhone.
>>>> Hopefully someone else will take on the SwordReader development,  
>>>> but
>>>> from my
>>>> experiences I am guessing that the Windows Mobile platform is a
>>>> dying breed.
>>>>
>>>> In Christ,
>>>> David Trotz
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ian Wagner [mailto:iwagn973 at students.bju.edu]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:53 PM
>>>> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
>>>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] iPhone developers?
>>>>
>>>> No, this will be a free application. The reason that I require  
>>>> sign-
>>>> ups is that it is impossible to release a version that will run on
>>>> just any iPhone/iPod touch because of Apple's code signing
>>>> requirements. Each device's UUID must be added to the provisioning
>>>> profile or the device will reject the app. The App Store of course
>>>> uses a different system, but that is handled by Apple, and I don't
>>>> want to release beta software to the App Store.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>> ---------------
>>>> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
>>>> http://hiyono.dorms.bju.edu/ (only works @ BJU)
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 19, 2009, at 7:48 PM, David Trotz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I too am interested in working with the iPhone devs on the iPhone
>>>>> port. I am getting an iPhone later this week and just downloaded  
>>>>> the
>>>>> iPhone 2.2 SDK.
>>>>> I am curious, why are you requiring sign-ups for beta testers? Are
>>>>> you planning on selling this software at some point?
>>>>> --
>>>>> David Trotz
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Wagner wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I am working on one in what spare time I have. Check out
>>>> http://pocketsword.net/
>>>>>> for details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone is interested, I am now opening this up for a beta  
>>>>>> test.
>>>>>> Sign-up details on the site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
>>>>>> http://hiyono.dorms.bju.edu/ (only works @ BJU)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Jake Spirek wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>>> is there anyone out there working on an iPhone version of the
>>>>>>> SWORD project? I am looking to team up with people to make an  
>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>> with a great GUI and hopefully someday even be able to sync
>>>>>>> bookmarks with the desktop versions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jake
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