[sword-devel] Site redesign (Re: Announcing FireBible 0.5.1 - GPLed Firefox font-end)

[DM Smith]

Chris,
On the server the pertinent files are located at:
/var/www/wiki
and
/usr/share/mediawiki

For the most part /var/www/wiki contains symbolic links to the /usr/ 
share/mediawiki.

The color scheme currently used is defined in LocalSettings.php with  
the following entry:
## Default skin: you can change the default skin. Use the internal  
symbolic
## names, ie 'standard', 'nostalgia', 'cologneblue', 'monobook':
$wgDefaultSkin = 'monobook';

That's all that I know about the visual appearance of the wiki.

I don't have the time to look into changing this right now. So feel  
free to make the change.

In Him,
	DM

On Mar 30, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Chris Little wrote:

> Sounds great. Any idea how to change the color scheme of the Wiki to
> approximate our other pages? I spent a few minutes searching for some
> instructions, but ultimately I'm not even sure where the templates
> reside on crosswire.org or if color schemes could be set within the
> Wiki. (Does this even matter? It just seems that, since we've got a
> consistent palette throughout the main webpages, the forums, & the bug
> tracker, it might be nice for the Wiki too.)
>
> --Chris
>
> DM Smith wrote:
>> I'll see what I can do to do a basic change to the wiki. I like your
>> suggestions.
>>
>> The other thing I'd like to suggest that we do concerning the wiki is
>> to put "Talk" on the Talk pages and have each wiki page be more
>> organized. A few of the pages have ramblings, such as http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/DevTools:SWORD
>> .. It seems that "I tried this ... and it worked for me" is good, but
>> should be "Talk"
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Chris Little wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> DM Smith wrote:
>>>> I agree. The page should reflect a clear, dual personality. One for
>>>> users, the other for developers, as you have listed it.
>>>>
>>>> And the users should be put first. This would be a listing of the
>>>> major applications, with platform icons, and directions/links to
>>>> those
>>>> projects. I say "applications" because I think BibleTool and
>>>> FlashCards should go here.
>>> The big problem with the main CrossWire page ATM is that it's just  
>>> too
>>> long due to the presence of dead, unaffiliated, and minor  
>>> projects. I
>>> imagine I'll keep a similar but compacted format the same, with 2
>>> sections:
>>>
>>> Featured Site (no change there)
>>> Users (shortened blurbs with links for each of...)
>>> 	BibleCS
>>> 	GnomeSword
>>> 	BibleTime
>>> 	MacSword
>>> 	Bible Desktop
>>> 	BibleTool
>>> 	Flashcards
>>> 	Sword for PPC(maybe?)
>>> 	a link into the main Sword pages for Modules & for the other 				
>>> frontends
>>>
>>> I don't think there's need for any developer-oriented material on  
>>> the
>>> main page. There's already a link to a Volunteers & Developers page
>>> (which needs some serious pruning and a few additions itself).
>>>
>>>> I don't see the point in the page being a jsp, unless it serves up
>>>> something dynamic. Does it?
>>> The JSPs are used throughout the CrossWire & Sword pages chiefly for
>>> maintaining consistent look & navigation links throughout each
>>> section.
>>>
>>> Like in the Sword pages, the CrossWire pages bring in the header  
>>> (with
>>> menus) and footer via JSP includes.
>>>
>>>> Much of the crosswire.org pages are old and need of updating. I'd
>>>> like
>>>> to see all the developer pages moved to the wiki and the old pages
>>>> replaced with redirects. One that can be done right now is the
>>>> "module
>>>> making" page, http://www.crosswire.org/sword/develop/swordmodule.  
>>>> All
>>>> of it is reproduced in the wiki and up to date (the old page is out
>>>> of
>>>> date).
>>> How did you find the page? The main link to it has pointed to the  
>>> Wiki
>>> for a month or so. (I did just find another link to the old page,  
>>> but
>>> that's on a page that needs complete revision.) I don't think any
>>> links
>>> to it still exist on the Sword site, but I know there are some
>>> external
>>> links so I'll put a forward in.
>>>
>>>> What if the "sidebar" were changed to have one set of entries for
>>>> users and one set for developers.
>>> I just find the sidebar annoying since it's so long that the search
>>> box
>>> is shifted down below the first page, requiring scrolling for  
>>> access.
>>>
>>> The sidebar should only include items that a user would likely  
>>> want to
>>> visit from within Wiki entries (i.e. not when he begins to browse,
>>> since
>>> that stuff should just go on the main page entry).
>>>
>>>> The user set would have a small number of links: FAQ, Applications.
>>>> The Applications page would list actively maintained projects. If
>>>> those have active wiki entries, that would be referenced.  
>>>> Otherwise,
>>>> the appropriate website would be referenced. Inactive/orphaned/ 
>>>> dead/
>>>> not-yet-1.0 applications would be another page reachable from the
>>>> bottom of the Applications page.
>>>>
>>>> The developer set also would be limited: FAQ, Projects.
>>>> The FAQ does not exist yet. Projects would be like Applications,  
>>>> but
>>>> reference the home of the project and perhaps have it's own wiki.
>>>> Pages such as for BibleTime are currently useless and should be
>>>> deleted.
>>> I think I would condense that even further, down to one FAQ (unless
>>> there's ever a developer-specific FAQ) and one Applications link-- 
>>> plus
>>> the addition of much more guidance on the main page (links and text
>>> beyond "Welcome").
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>>
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