[sword-devel] SwordReader - eVC 3.0 discontinued

[David Trotz]

John,
I plan to do all I can to keep WinCE 3+ in action when it comes to 
SwordReader. I am just really depressed that eVC 3 is being pulled. 
WinCE 3 support is only one reason I keep the eVC 3 project alive, the 
other reason is that it is (or was) a free IDE for mobile development 
and I hoped this would encourage volunteers to come along side. There is 
still eVC 4, which I am pretty sure supports WinCE 3, but I myself do 
not have the desire to try the port, at least not at this time.

I will continue keep the eVC 3 project up to date and use that for 
release builds for WinCE 3 devices until an alternative solution comes 
along.

Orbworks has its own issues, as the Windows CE version (PocketC CE) is 
no longer being maintained.

--
In Christ,
David Trotz

John wrote:
> David and All,
>
> >From time to time, M$ "recreates," obviouly for their own benefit, the EULA 
> for software that is being made available.  THIS means that there are 
> chances where software is discontinued and no longer available at the 
> website.  According to the licensing "rules" in the Software Business 
> Association, formerly known as the Software Publishers Association, once a 
> license is made available (via purchase acquisition),
>
> They, the vendor--M$--are just as bound to the license rules as are the end 
> users.  This cannot be broken by the vender by a discontinuance of the 
> software availability.  It may be broken by the end user only, as noted by 
> Daniel Blake, via software license transfer agreement, and the new end user 
> needs to agree to the EULA "prior" to installing and using the software.
>
> Every software vendor is in favor of this model for the simple reason that 
> "competitive upgrades" cannot be broken by an EULA.  This was one of the 
> major "sticking points" that M$, IBM, and even LOTUS had in court back in 
> the early to mid-90s.  I spent a great deal of time with lawyers and experts 
> at that time--hammering out software licensing.
>
> Just because it is unavailable does not mean that it is useless.  The 
> original posting to this list was spawned by the acquisition of qty of 10 HP 
> Jornada 548 units--in perfect shape.  My intention is to load the 
> SwordReader and many of the available modules for my neices and nephews to 
> use in their Bible study while away from their homes.  I also intend to keep 
> supplying these to the others as they arrive of age to protect and 
> responsibily use such a tool.
>
> The abandonment of eVC 3.0 will, correct me if I am misunderstanding, render 
> the SwordReader "broken" for the platform (Windows CE 3.0) for the SH-3 
> processor.  I would most diligently consider a platform of development that 
> will continue support for these units, and keep this tool available to the 
> "new" generation of "inheriting" students of the Word of God.
>
> An alternative to the M$ eVC 3.0 might be Orbworks.com PocketC environment. 
> BTW, there are other persons in the M$ eVT 3.0 forums 
> (http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2723319&SiteID=1) 
> which are asking M$ to restore the download link for the packages you 
> mentioned.
>
> R,
>
> John Gammon
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daniel Blake" <danblake at tcdr.com>
> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" <sword-devel at crosswire.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] SwordReader - eVC 3.0 discontinued
>
>
>   
>> I just looked at the EULA and the only thing I found was the standard
>> right to "Software Transfer" clause.
>>
>> e.    Software Transfer. You may permanently transfer all of your rights
>> under this EULA, provided you retain no copies, you  transfer all of the
>> SOFTWARE PRODUCT (including all component parts, the media and printed
>> materials, any upgrades, this EULA, and, if applicable, the Certificate
>> of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA.
>>
>> There wasn't anything thing else in the EULA pertaining to this issue.
>>
>> Daniel Blake
>>
>> David Trotz wrote:
>>     
>>> Guys,
>>> I was preparing to reinstall Windoze on my desktop when I noticed that
>>> the eVC 3.0 download no longer exists at Microsoft's site. Unless we are
>>> legally able to distribute this amongst ourselves we should consider
>>> either porting to eVC 4 or discontinue eVC support altogether. If we
>>> discontinue eVC support altogether this will likely impact users of
>>> older  windows ce  devices.
>>>
>>> Input, and suggestions are welcome here.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Trotz
>>>
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