[sword-devel] SBL/ETS update / J2ME / Mac

DM Smith dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 22 14:53:22 MST 2006 

Manfred,

Lucene allows for wildcard searches. That is you can append a * to  
the end of the user input.

While Lucene 2.0 is a substantial performance improvement, it should  
not be necessary. But no harm in using it.

Did you try the hesychius module Troy put together. You can find it  
here:

http://crosswire.org/sword/servlet/SwordMod.Verify? 
modName=Hesychius&beta=true&pkgType=mac

It is a GenBook, but Troy says he can redo it as a dictionary, if  
needed.

Here is what it looked like for me using your MacSword-release.app.  
Note that the tree is not displaying correctly.


I'll be away from my Mac this weekend. So I won't be able to help  
test any further.

In His Service,
	DM

On Nov 22, 2006, at 4:29 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:

> Sorry again.
>
> But here are the updates with a functional dictionary search.
> I saw the links in the other mail were broken, here again:
> http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/MacSword- 
> debug.app.zip
> http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/MacSword- 
> release.app.zip
>
>
> Time for bed now...
> Good night
>
>
> Am 22.11.2006 um 22:11 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
>
>> Sorry folks.
>>
>> I was a bit to fast.
>> Unfortunately the search in lexicons doesn't work.
>> I will have a look at this first but nevertheless someone could test
>> the bible book search.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Manfred
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.11.2006 um 21:12 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>
>>> Manfred,
>>> 	Yes, that would make him dance. :)
>>>
>>> 		-Troy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>> Troy,
>>>>
>>>> sorry I didn't get the time on the evening that I said.
>>>> But I defenitely will have a look this week.
>>>>
>>>> Just that I understood right.
>>>> What he wants to do is some kind of incremental search means  
>>>> that the
>>>> textfield fires notifications (or Events) whenever a character is
>>>> typed
>>>> and the search is updated right away, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Manfred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 21.11.2006 um 20:41 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>
>>>>> Manfred,
>>>>>     This is great news if you might have something available
>>>>> soon.  I
>>>>> have
>>>>> no experience with MacSword, or programming for the Mac.  You
>>>>> would be
>>>>> Dr. Winter's hero if you had a standalone app (macsword) working
>>>>> well
>>>>> with Hesychius for his presentation.  Don't stress too much, as
>>>>> he can
>>>>> always require there to be internet access available and use  
>>>>> the web
>>>>> tool, but I'm sure it would remove much stress from him if he had
>>>>> something working which didn't require it.  Thanks for your  
>>>>> efforts.
>>>>> I'm sorry you've not had success getting your additions to  
>>>>> macsword
>>>>> released.
>>>>>
>>>>>     -Troy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Troy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if I understood right.
>>>>>> Generally I have the current sources of MacSword and actually I
>>>>>> helped developing it for quite some time but unfortunately these
>>>>>> updates (Universal Binary) never have been released.
>>>>>> Anyway, changing the search mechanism to work the way you  
>>>>>> described
>>>>>> should be doable (once the index has been build).
>>>>>> I can have a closer look at this in the evening (that's in  
>>>>>> about 9
>>>>>> hours :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 20.11.2006 um 05:42 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DM, that's a nice screenshot.  I think Dr. Winter is mostly
>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>> in quick/easy searching in either the body or the key of the
>>>>>>> lexicon.  I
>>>>>>> can rebuild the lexicon as an SWLD4 module, it macsword handles
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> better for searching.  In BibleCS, we have an incremental
>>>>>>> search-- as
>>>>>>> the user types it focuses the closes match in the center of
>>>>>>> about 10
>>>>>>> entries of context.  That would be great for him for key  
>>>>>>> lookups,
>>>>>>> but he
>>>>>>> still wants to search entries, as well. (and actually,
>>>>>>> sometimes the
>>>>>>> keys have multiple words, and his target word might not be  
>>>>>>> first,
>>>>>>> so the
>>>>>>> incremental search won't pull it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All this to say, with all the great indexing everyone is doing
>>>>>>> on our
>>>>>>> data-- whether with sword or else with their own index  
>>>>>>> build-- it
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be possible to do full body search results as an incremental
>>>>>>> search--
>>>>>>> while the user types, it fills out the results box.  Google
>>>>>>> "suggest"
>>>>>>> does this on the entire internet :)  We should be able to do it
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>> much smaller domain of data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But regardless, I'm not a mac programmer, and have no idea  
>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>> (or even compile; nor do I have access to a mac!) to do any of
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Bruce.  So, if we can't get even a simple tool for him by
>>>>>>> Friday, I'll
>>>>>>> probably just say he needs to be sure to have internet access
>>>>>>> for his
>>>>>>> presentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         -Troy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DM Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Macintosh Lexicon Support--  The Hesychius lexicon has been
>>>>>>>>> imported as
>>>>>>>>> a sword module into GBS format using, e.g. /A/AD/Adam as the
>>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>> structure for entries.  Dr. Bruce Winter from Tyndale House
>>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>>> Library is presenting this coming Friday and would like to
>>>>>>>>> use this
>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>> standalone on his Mac.  I have no idea how well GBS is
>>>>>>>>> supported on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Mac, or how easy the interface is for him to use.  Anyone who
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>> with this would really take some pressure off of me!
>>>>>>>> MacSword supports GenBook quite well, but it might not be
>>>>>>>> obvious how
>>>>>>>> it works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is an image of how it looks:
>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/MacSwordGenBook.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that there is a "tray" on the right of the window.
>>>>>>>> This is activated by the icon in the upper right of the window.
>>>>>>>> The tray is initially closed when the window comes up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The up and down arrows merely go from one keyed entry to the
>>>>>>>> next.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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