[sword-devel] SBL/ETS update / J2ME / Mac

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Thu Nov 23 08:00:18 MST 2006


Manfred,
	Thank you so much for spending time on this, and in such short notice. 
  I do not have a Mac to try it on.  How does it do with the Hesychius 
module?  It is in General Book format, not Lexicon:

http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=Hesychius&tester=true&beta=true

	-Troy.



Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> Sorry again.
> 
> But here are the updates with a functional dictionary search.
> I saw the links in the other mail were broken, here again:
> http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/MacSword-debug.app.zip
> http://homepage.mac.com/manfred.bergmann/.public/MacSword-release.app.zip
> 
> 
> Time for bed now...
> Good night
> 
> 
> Am 22.11.2006 um 22:11 schrieb Manfred Bergmann:
> 
>> Sorry folks.
>>
>> I was a bit to fast.
>> Unfortunately the search in lexicons doesn't work.
>> I will have a look at this first but nevertheless someone could test  
>> the bible book search.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Manfred
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.11.2006 um 21:12 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>
>>> Manfred,
>>> Yes, that would make him dance. :)
>>>
>>> -Troy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>> Troy,
>>>>
>>>> sorry I didn't get the time on the evening that I said.
>>>> But I defenitely will have a look this week.
>>>>
>>>> Just that I understood right.
>>>> What he wants to do is some kind of incremental search means that the
>>>> textfield fires notifications (or Events) whenever a character is  
>>>> typed
>>>> and the search is updated right away, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Manfred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 21.11.2006 um 20:41 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>
>>>>> Manfred,
>>>>>     This is great news if you might have something available  
>>>>> soon.  I
>>>>> have
>>>>> no experience with MacSword, or programming for the Mac.  You  
>>>>> would be
>>>>> Dr. Winter's hero if you had a standalone app (macsword) working  
>>>>> well
>>>>> with Hesychius for his presentation.  Don't stress too much, as  
>>>>> he can
>>>>> always require there to be internet access available and use the web
>>>>> tool, but I'm sure it would remove much stress from him if he had
>>>>> something working which didn't require it.  Thanks for your efforts.
>>>>> I'm sorry you've not had success getting your additions to macsword
>>>>> released.
>>>>>
>>>>>     -Troy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Troy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if I understood right.
>>>>>> Generally I have the current sources of MacSword and actually I
>>>>>> helped developing it for quite some time but unfortunately these
>>>>>> updates (Universal Binary) never have been released.
>>>>>> Anyway, changing the search mechanism to work the way you described
>>>>>> should be doable (once the index has been build).
>>>>>> I can have a closer look at this in the evening (that's in about 9
>>>>>> hours :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Manfred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 20.11.2006 um 05:42 schrieb Troy A. Griffitts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DM, that's a nice screenshot.  I think Dr. Winter is mostly  
>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>> in quick/easy searching in either the body or the key of the
>>>>>>> lexicon.  I
>>>>>>> can rebuild the lexicon as an SWLD4 module, it macsword handles  
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> better for searching.  In BibleCS, we have an incremental  
>>>>>>> search-- as
>>>>>>> the user types it focuses the closes match in the center of  
>>>>>>> about 10
>>>>>>> entries of context.  That would be great for him for key lookups,
>>>>>>> but he
>>>>>>> still wants to search entries, as well. (and actually,  
>>>>>>> sometimes the
>>>>>>> keys have multiple words, and his target word might not be first,
>>>>>>> so the
>>>>>>> incremental search won't pull it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All this to say, with all the great indexing everyone is doing  
>>>>>>> on our
>>>>>>> data-- whether with sword or else with their own index build-- it
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be possible to do full body search results as an incremental  
>>>>>>> search--
>>>>>>> while the user types, it fills out the results box.  Google  
>>>>>>> "suggest"
>>>>>>> does this on the entire internet :)  We should be able to do it  
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>> much smaller domain of data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But regardless, I'm not a mac programmer, and have no idea how to
>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>> (or even compile; nor do I have access to a mac!) to do any of  
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Bruce.  So, if we can't get even a simple tool for him by  
>>>>>>> Friday, I'll
>>>>>>> probably just say he needs to be sure to have internet access  
>>>>>>> for his
>>>>>>> presentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         -Troy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DM Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Macintosh Lexicon Support--  The Hesychius lexicon has been
>>>>>>>>> imported as
>>>>>>>>> a sword module into GBS format using, e.g. /A/AD/Adam as the  
>>>>>>>>> tree
>>>>>>>>> structure for entries.  Dr. Bruce Winter from Tyndale House  
>>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>>> Library is presenting this coming Friday and would like to  
>>>>>>>>> use this
>>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>> standalone on his Mac.  I have no idea how well GBS is  
>>>>>>>>> supported on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Mac, or how easy the interface is for him to use.  Anyone who  
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>> with this would really take some pressure off of me!
>>>>>>>> MacSword supports GenBook quite well, but it might not be  
>>>>>>>> obvious how
>>>>>>>> it works.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is an image of how it looks:
>>>>>>>> http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/MacSwordGenBook.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that there is a "tray" on the right of the window.
>>>>>>>> This is activated by the icon in the upper right of the window.
>>>>>>>> The tray is initially closed when the window comes up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The up and down arrows merely go from one keyed entry to the  
>>>>>>>> next.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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