[sword-devel] Yet another KJV markup question.

[DM Smith]

Chris,

Yeah, this was a bad example. In fact, most of the actual <w> nesting 
situations in the KJV2003 are bad examples. I know just enough Greek to 
fix most (I'm rusty as it has been 25+ years since I studied Greek:) and 
maybe all.

The worst bug of this kind is in Luke 15.24.

Troy will probably have to confirm, but it appears that the src 
attribute is being used to indicate the position of the Greek word in a 
particular module. If so, it would be good to be able to construct an 
actual osisRef for it. While cp and s are defined as grain operators it 
would be good to also have wp (i.e. word position), too.

The <w> element lets one indicate that two or more words are being 
translated as in
<w lemma="s:1 s:2">word</w>.
Likewise, it is possible to have more than on morph as in
<w morph="r:9 r:10">word</w>
But in combining these,
<w lemma="s:1 s:2" morph="r:9 r:10">word</w>
it is not possible to know for certain, but only by convention that s:1 
maps to r:9 and s:2 maps to r:10.
Adding src to it makes the mapping even more difficult.
<w src="7,9" lemma="s:1 s:2" morph="r:9 r:10">word</w>
It appears that nesting is being used to indicate uniquely the origin.
<w src="7" lemma="s:2" morph="r:9"><w src="9" lemma="s:1" 
morph="r:10>word</w></w>

Is there any value in such a nesting construct? (Personally, I don't 
think so.)

DM

Chris Little wrote:
> That's an encoding error. Someone with a knowledge of Greek will have 
> to confirm this for you, but I think the outer <w> applies to the 
> second "that" in the verse and the inner <w> applies to the first one.
>
> Here's the full verse:
> " For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and 
> drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe 
> entered into the ark, "
>
> ωσπερ γαρ ησαν εν ταις ημεραις ταις προ του κατακλυσμου τρωγοντες και 
> πινοντες γαμουντες και εκγαμιζοντες αχρι ης ημερας εισηλθεν νωε εις 
> την κιβωτον
>
> --Chris
>
>
> DM Smith wrote:
>> Another question:
>> In the following from Matt.24.38, how should the nesting be fixed? 
>> (Nesting <w> in OSIS is not allowed)
>> <w src="18" lemma="strong:G3739" morph="robinson:R-GSF"><w src="7" 
>> lemma="strong:G3588" morph="robinson:T-DPF">that</w></w>