[sword-devel] HTML Designers / Papyri Database (fwd)

Art Bolstad art at arthurbolstad.com
Sun Jul 30 14:20:09 MST 2006 

I like what I see, so far.  I don't see anything more than the contacts 
page. though.  I don't actually see any way to see transcriptions either 
- other than what other sites are doing.  Is that what you meant?

I think the idea of comments and user improvements to transcriptions and 
translations is important, although the academics in the world, may not 
appreciate the value of AMATEURS :-) .

art bolstad



Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Been making progress on a functional level 1 markup and transcription page.
> Have a look at this:
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/projects/digital/apis/
>
>
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>   
>> Resending message from a different client... It seems spamcop has 
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>>
>> Art and Matt,
>>     I'm excited that we seem to have similar ideas of what this could
>> become.  To elaborate on what you've mentioned.
>>
>>     I have hope that most major universities who frequently publish, or
>> have important Papyri (Duke, Oxford, etc.), will participate in
>> registering their documents.
>>     These documents move around for display and they would have the
>> option to update the current location of each document.
>>
>>     Open contributors would have custom skills which would cut across
>> the domain of document owners and would include things like Matt has
>> mentioned like: transcribers, translators, commentators.  Then document
>> owners could officially endorse submission, or other higher ranked
>> contributors could rank them.
>>
>>     The entire database snapshot would be available for free download as
>> a DVD image (or set, if necessary).   Uniformly marked up data would
>> allow all kinds of outside research.
>>
>>     HURDLE: Document owners are mostly protective of their images and
>> make a fair amount of money from photographs, etc.
>>     Possible solution: All images licensed with restriction that, if
>> republished, they must be reproduced in entirety. Images could then
>> include a border on the image with ownership/attribution text which
>> would sufficiently make the image unattractive to publishers that they
>> would still wish to photograph originals.
>>
>> There seems to be 2 levels of development:
>>
>>     On a lower level, I see a number of small, specialized utility pages
>> for each of these tasks.
>>
>>     On a higher level it seem we'll need very different faces to the
>> overall site will probably need to be developed based on the desired use
>> case and role:  Document Owner, Transcriber, Translator, Researching
>> Scholar.
>>
>>     Yes, I've been hoping we can work together with other projects who
>> have a similar vision.  I was hoping we could show off some basic,
>> useful tools before contacting them.
>>
>>     Thanks for dreaming together guys.  This is fun!
>>
>>        -Troy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Art Bolstad wrote:
>>     
>>> I am enclosing a pdf of a proposed web interface.  It is simply some
>>> drawings and text of what I think this database should look like on
>>> the web.  If it is a step in the right direction, then we can work
>>> from there.
>>> Since it is a proposal, discussion of it would be nice.
>>>
>>> art bolstad
>>>
>>> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>       
>>>> If you are an HTML designer, there is a huge need for YOU! :)
>>>>
>>>> We're trying to mockup some idea pages and really have no user
>>>> interface skills.
>>>>
>>>> The idea we're trying to develop is a Papyri/Inscription registry
>>>> database.
>>>>
>>>> It's a place where ancient scans can be uploaded, transcribed at 2
>>>> levels, translated, and demographic data associated.
>>>>
>>>> The sad start of a mockup is available at:
>>>>
>>>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/papyriedit/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The data we're trying to capture is represented by something like
>>>> (please ignore the markup specifics, but instead concentrate on the
>>>> idea):
>>>>
>>>> $$$/Bodmer Collection/Biblical Papyri/P66
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-BiblicalContent">
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.1.1-John.6.11">John 1:1-6:11</reference>;
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.6.35-John.14.26">6:35-14:26</reference>,
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.6.29-John.6.30">29-30</reference>;
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.15.2-John.15.26">15:2-26</reference>;
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.2-John.16.4">16:2-4</reference>,
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.6-John.16.7">6-7</reference>;
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.10-John.20.20">16:10-20:20</reference>,
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.22-John.16.23">22-23</reference>;
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.20.25-John.21.9">20:25-21:9</reference>,
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.20.12">12</reference>,
>>>>    <reference osisRef="John.20.17">17</reference>
>>>> </seg>
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DocumentName">P66</seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-OriginDate">200</seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-OriginPlace">unknown</seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveryDate"></seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveryPlace">Jabal Abu Mana, just
>>>> north of the Dishna plain and 12 kms east of Jabal al-Tarif.</seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveryPlaceLonLat">-127.645667
>>>> 42.224675</seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveredBy"></seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-Owner">P. Chester Beatty</seg>
>>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-CurrentLocation">Cologny-Genéva,
>>>> Switzerland: Bibliotheca Bodmeriana; one leaf is in Cologne, Germany:
>>>> Institut für Altertumskunde der Universitat zu Köln</seg>
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-scan"><figure
>>>> src="images/Collection/Section/Document.png"/></seg>
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-transcription" subType="x-level1">
>>>>    <w id="c1" src="5 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c2" src="40 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="c3" src="75 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c4" src="110 5 34 
>>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="c5" src="145 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c6" src="180 5 34 
>>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="c7" src="215 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c8" src="250 5 34 
>>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="c9" src="285 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c10" src="320 5 34 
>>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="c11" src="355 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c12" src="390 5 34
>>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="c13" src="425 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c14" src="460 5 34
>>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>> </seg>
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-transcription" subType="x-level2">
>>>>    <w id="w1" src="c1 c2">ÿÿÿÿ</w> <w id="w2" src="c3 c4 c5 
>>>> c6">ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="w3" src="c7 c8">ÿÿÿÿ</w> <w id="w4" src="c9">ÿÿ</w>
>>>>    <w id="w5" src="c10 c11 c12 c13 c14">ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ</w>
>>>> </seg>
>>>>
>>>> <seg type="x-translation" subType="x-en">
>>>>    <w src="w1">In</w> <w src="w2">the beginning</w>
>>>>    <w src="w3">was</w> <w src="w4 w5">the Word</w>.
>>>> </seg>
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