[sword-devel] HTML Designers / Papyri Database (fwd)

Troy A. Griffitts scribe at crosswire.org
Sun Jul 30 14:05:02 MST 2006 

Been making progress on a functional level 1 markup and transcription page.
Have a look at this:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/projects/digital/apis/


Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
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> Art and Matt,
>     I'm excited that we seem to have similar ideas of what this could
> become.  To elaborate on what you've mentioned.
>
>     I have hope that most major universities who frequently publish, or
> have important Papyri (Duke, Oxford, etc.), will participate in
> registering their documents.
>     These documents move around for display and they would have the
> option to update the current location of each document.
>
>     Open contributors would have custom skills which would cut across
> the domain of document owners and would include things like Matt has
> mentioned like: transcribers, translators, commentators.  Then document
> owners could officially endorse submission, or other higher ranked
> contributors could rank them.
>
>     The entire database snapshot would be available for free download as
> a DVD image (or set, if necessary).   Uniformly marked up data would
> allow all kinds of outside research.
>
>     HURDLE: Document owners are mostly protective of their images and
> make a fair amount of money from photographs, etc.
>     Possible solution: All images licensed with restriction that, if
> republished, they must be reproduced in entirety. Images could then
> include a border on the image with ownership/attribution text which
> would sufficiently make the image unattractive to publishers that they
> would still wish to photograph originals.
>
> There seems to be 2 levels of development:
>
>     On a lower level, I see a number of small, specialized utility pages
> for each of these tasks.
>
>     On a higher level it seem we'll need very different faces to the
> overall site will probably need to be developed based on the desired use
> case and role:  Document Owner, Transcriber, Translator, Researching
> Scholar.
>
>     Yes, I've been hoping we can work together with other projects who
> have a similar vision.  I was hoping we could show off some basic,
> useful tools before contacting them.
>
>     Thanks for dreaming together guys.  This is fun!
>
>        -Troy.
>
>
>
> Art Bolstad wrote:
>> I am enclosing a pdf of a proposed web interface.  It is simply some
>> drawings and text of what I think this database should look like on
>> the web.  If it is a step in the right direction, then we can work
>> from there.
>> Since it is a proposal, discussion of it would be nice.
>>
>> art bolstad
>>
>> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> If you are an HTML designer, there is a huge need for YOU! :)
>>>
>>> We're trying to mockup some idea pages and really have no user
>>> interface skills.
>>>
>>> The idea we're trying to develop is a Papyri/Inscription registry
>>> database.
>>>
>>> It's a place where ancient scans can be uploaded, transcribed at 2
>>> levels, translated, and demographic data associated.
>>>
>>> The sad start of a mockup is available at:
>>>
>>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/papyriedit/
>>>
>>>
>>> The data we're trying to capture is represented by something like
>>> (please ignore the markup specifics, but instead concentrate on the
>>> idea):
>>>
>>> $$$/Bodmer Collection/Biblical Papyri/P66
>>>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-BiblicalContent">
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.1.1-John.6.11">John 1:1-6:11</reference>;
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.6.35-John.14.26">6:35-14:26</reference>,
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.6.29-John.6.30">29-30</reference>;
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.15.2-John.15.26">15:2-26</reference>;
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.2-John.16.4">16:2-4</reference>,
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.6-John.16.7">6-7</reference>;
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.10-John.20.20">16:10-20:20</reference>,
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.16.22-John.16.23">22-23</reference>;
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.20.25-John.21.9">20:25-21:9</reference>,
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.20.12">12</reference>,
>>>    <reference osisRef="John.20.17">17</reference>
>>> </seg>
>>>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DocumentName">P66</seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-OriginDate">200</seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-OriginPlace">unknown</seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveryDate"></seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveryPlace">Jabal Abu Mana, just
>>> north of the Dishna plain and 12 kms east of Jabal al-Tarif.</seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveryPlaceLonLat">-127.645667
>>> 42.224675</seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-DiscoveredBy"></seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-Owner">P. Chester Beatty</seg>
>>> <seg type="x-key" subType="x-CurrentLocation">Cologny-Genéva,
>>> Switzerland: Bibliotheca Bodmeriana; one leaf is in Cologne, Germany:
>>> Institut für Altertumskunde der Universitat zu Köln</seg>
>>>
>>> <seg type="x-scan"><figure
>>> src="images/Collection/Section/Document.png"/></seg>
>>>
>>> <seg type="x-transcription" subType="x-level1">
>>>    <w id="c1" src="5 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c2" src="40 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="c3" src="75 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c4" src="110 5 34 
>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="c5" src="145 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c6" src="180 5 34 
>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="c7" src="215 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c8" src="250 5 34 
>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="c9" src="285 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c10" src="320 5 34 
>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="c11" src="355 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c12" src="390 5 34
>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="c13" src="425 5 34 34">ÿÿ</w><w id="c14" src="460 5 34
>>> 34">ÿÿ</w>
>>> </seg>
>>>
>>> <seg type="x-transcription" subType="x-level2">
>>>    <w id="w1" src="c1 c2">ÿÿÿÿ</w> <w id="w2" src="c3 c4 c5 
>>> c6">ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="w3" src="c7 c8">ÿÿÿÿ</w> <w id="w4" src="c9">ÿÿ</w>
>>>    <w id="w5" src="c10 c11 c12 c13 c14">ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ</w>
>>> </seg>
>>>
>>> <seg type="x-translation" subType="x-en">
>>>    <w src="w1">In</w> <w src="w2">the beginning</w>
>>>    <w src="w3">was</w> <w src="w4 w5">the Word</w>.
>>> </seg>
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