[sword-devel] image support and UI selection (Re: JSword and development progress)

DM Smith dmsmith555 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 28 04:57:57 MST 2006

	I think you have mentioned a couple of good ideas here:
a) Display in a separate window.
b) scale the image.

That got me thinking and I think of a couple more:
c) optional images
d) place holders for images.
	Perhaps these go together as the caption should be handled as part  
of the state.
e) images can be expanded/shrunk inline at user request


On Aug 28, 2006, at 7:45 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:

> Barry Drake <b.drake at ntlworld.com> writes:
>> Does the imagesampler module still work?  Answer:
>> perfectly under GnomeSword.
> Yeah, I just tried it out, too.  Interestingly, it's a ThML module.
> (Not that it matters; the tagging is trivial in either that or OSIS.)
>> If we work towards putting the map tags in the NET module
>> eventually, it will do no harm and maps will be available when
>> supported by frontends.  All of the map-references occur in the
>> notes, so they will need to be supported by the footnote window in
>> any frontend that wants to make use of them.
> The problem I perceive is that images tend to be *big*.  NET's
> mapN.jpg files are the smallest of that set, all 1024 pixels wide.
> The jpN.jpg are in the 1300+ range, and the otN.jpg are 2000-pixel
> monsters.  Images that large make for a lot of mouse-scrolling within
> small subwindows inside the main.  I don't know about anyone else, but
> my use of GS' display devotes comparatively little space to subwindows
> other than the main text, especially the previewer and dictionary (but
> I give a decent amount of space to the commentary).  Considering that
> my heaviest use of GS is on my laptop, with just a 1024x768 screen, I
> wouldn't want to be constantly scrolling images, or seeing them
> embedded within other text, like footnotes, overwhelming the text.
> I'd want them outside the main window entirely.
> I tried out imagesampler via GS' "open in dialog", to create a
> separate window, independently resizable and bury-able from the rest
> of GS' usual display, and that worked reasonably well.  But I don't
> know if GS, or any other Sword tool, can link directly to an
> externally-displayed image.
> Then again, image content is rare and infrequently referenced.  For
> me, keeping a separate module open, the way I just tried imagesampler,
> would be the way I'd want to go for images all the time.  Once I know
> what reference is needed (e.g. from NET's *map* references), just
> selecting the maps window and picking the needed image is easy.
> It seems to me as well that the frontends should be able to scale an
> image within the bounding of the window in which they're displayed, so
> that mouse-scrolling isn't needed at all.
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